Chardok AoE Groups and the Rules

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Tooty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They basically stated that they don't know where all the mobs path so they cant guarantee I won't be trained.

I'd then go down there with the puller and work something out.

If nothing else I'd definitely make sure I was a thorn in their side until a pipe was given to me or until they respected my right to go down there.

That's good lawyering from them though, they can say they warned you etc so as not to be banned if you die...despite server rules to the contrary.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's good lawyering from them though, they can say they warned you etc so as not to be banned if you die...despite server rules to the contrary.

Thats BS swish. "Were going to be pulling the entire zone all over the place so its your fault if we train you"

They shouldnt be pulling/going near that guy if theres a possibility of a train and if they do train they should be punished like anyone else who trains. Worse really since its basically intentional

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Rhambuk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats BS swish. "Were going to be pulling the entire zone all over the place so its your fault if we train you"

They shouldnt be pulling/going near that guy if theres a possibility of a train and if they do train they should be punished like anyone else who trains. Worse really since its basically intentional

I totally agree, but its instilling doubt/confidence in the interloper's mind... subtley encouraging him not to interfere.

I'd shut down Chardok AOE tomorrow, used to be a good zone to group in.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I totally agree, but its instilling doubt/confidence in the interloper's mind... subtley encouraging him not to interfere.

I'd shut down Chardok AOE tomorrow, used to be a good zone to group in.

I gotcha now. I'd call it strongarming not rules lawyering :P

Lets start training royals on them!

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Tooty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In response to Krosan: I like to camp my own stuff, and I dont think I should HAVE to pay someone for a drop I can easily solo when the zone isn't monopolized by the aoe group.

In response to -TK-: I talked with the a few groups each for a good while. No one offered me a free pipe. A few people offered me the pipe for 4k to 7k. I told them I'd rather camp it myself and would be happy to camp in a place they didnt pull. They basically stated that they don't know where all the mobs path so they cant guarantee I won't be trained.

Run fraps and when they train you, they will, petition them. Not knowing how mobs are going to path is a bullshit excuse for training someone when really they should leave that whole area alone as to not train you but you know platinum and levels and fuck everyone else right

[Tooty]

I've petitioned in game a few times, and no one has responded ever. I'm getting the video/log evidence now, but I'm beginning to think the GM's are some of the folks doing the chardok AoE group and don't want it to be illegal.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Tooty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I literally cannot camp any pather in the zone for my Chardok Pipe b/c every 20 minutes there's a giant train that takes almost every mob in the zone to the entrance simultaneously causing deaths intentionally (they know there are folks out there in the zone at risk) and monopolizing/engaging/occupying most or all of the mobs in a non-raid area.

I told them I'd rather camp it myself and would be happy to camp in a place they didnt pull. They basically stated that they don't know where all the mobs path so they cant guarantee I won't be trained.

You seem to be under the impression that any pather can spawn the betrayer, that is not the case. You need to set up in the levitate tunnel or the cubby (safespot) and clear the statics so you can pull the three roamers that go up and down that specific hallway to pop the betrayer.

The tunnel to the left up on the wall from the castle is the one you need to head toward and go down from there.

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Pullers usually tag one of the mobs at the entrance of the levi tunnel as part of their pull and it causes it to path through the zone gathering up a ton of spawns (including your 3 roamers from the levi tunnel) to zone in.

[Swish]

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[Ele]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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[Rais]

I wouldn't recommend going down and sitting in the path of their pull. You getting ran over because of a tantrum won't work. Ask Taken about being ran over by Inny and his room when TMO were pulling him. Precedent is set on that already.

It's easy to camp the pipe if you want, even with them pulling. After they clear, move down and kill them as soon as they all respawn. Some maybe staggered, some not. I would say kill the ones at the top of the tunnel and work your way down, so when they pull nothing will agro you. Don't really even need to kill it all. Just keep the top few dead, so the roamer paths up to you to kill.

You could keep that area clear, and camp there. Highly doubtful you can solo the tunnel in this fashion, but you could be the best shaman ever and can.

Or sit at zone in and cry for no reason. Make threads crying over how unfair it is, when you can do the camp as you want in the first place.