Does God / a supreme being exist?

[Tajin898]

Originally Posted by quellren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You mean like when the Catholic church simply removed whole books because they didn't tell the story the way they wanted?

Or when certain manuscripts, like the dead sea scrolls were simply ignored as not gospel?

Editing like that?

The Catholic church didn't remove any books, rather they added apocryhpal books at the Council of Trent largely in response to the Protestant Reformation.

Also, the Dead Sea Scrolls weren't ignored as much as they were seen as tools, mainly translational tools. The Dead Sea Scrolls contained a majority amount of Apocryphal writings, and the biblical manuscripts they did contain gave scholars a great resource by extended the Bible's manuscript history back by a millennium (which made it possible to even more accurately determine the Bible's integrity of preservation and transmission).

However, as far as the Biblical text goes, at least the text of the Protestant Bible (which contains the books accepted and verified by the 1st century church) has not been "edited" in any way that would change or effect the theologies and key doctrinal teachings of the Christian faith.

[Slade_the_Slide]

Originally Posted by Dukat [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I believe in a supreme being though I do not subscribe to any organized religion. In my opinion, just as the cells of our body are each individually alive and yet create a much larger human organism, we and our planet and everything else are part of something much larger than anything we can ever realistically imagine. That something would have to be God.

Cool concept, but we've seen outside of our world. Unless the universe itself is one giant sentient being, then this is also a false claim. But that's the closest to a supreme being as we'd get.

[Bojangles]

Those 2 paragraphs were addressing 2 different arguments of yours, namely the 2 paragraphs I quoted. My para 1 is in response to your para 1, my para 2 is in response to your para 2.

You attempted to prove that God doesn't exist by saying His actions are insane. I am pointing out the counter-argument of Christians, which is that we cannot possibly understand the motivations and plans of God, therefore negating our ability to judge His actions.


Again you seem too stupid to realize I'm not arguing for the existence of God, I'm arguing that your "proofs" of his lack of existence have already been countered, and that there is evidence of the existence of God (with the level of credence given to that evidence not being relevant to the argument.)


Still waiting for you to show me where I claim I can prove the existence of God.