Michael Brown

[Sidelle]

Well, I'm completely disgusted by all the scumbaggery going on. These people have no fucking shame. I hope they all die screaming in the fires they're setting.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by Sidelle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well, now that the violent & retarded agitators are starting their shit in the wake of the grand jury's decision I'm just hopeful that innocent & peaceful protestors & business owners trying to protect their property don't get hurt or killed -- not to mention law enforcement personnel.

So here we go again...

I highly doubt the owners of those cars set them on fire themselves, lol... Or that ambulance had its lights on in the parking lot of that gas station because they needed to bypass traffic for their smokes.

I'm lacking understanding behind why these fucking people are fighting each other and not the problem. Its a different form of oppression in its way and theyre feeding the fire.

[Aviann]

Hurricane Katrina coming to a Ferguson, Missouri near you.

[Nuktari]

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[toolshed]

Fuck the militarization of the police. Police with no badge, no name tags, military weapons and rolling down the street with a fucking tank.

How can any libertarian or conservative support this? I thought they were against "big government"?

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck the militarization of the police. Police with no badge, no name tags, military weapons and rolling down the street with a fucking tank.

How can any libertarian or conservative support this? I thought they were against "big government"?

We are also against setting random vehicles on fire during a protest. Just sayin'

[Sidelle]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I highly doubt the owners of those cars set them on fire themselves, lol... Or that ambulance had its lights on in the parking lot of that gas station because they needed to bypass traffic for their smokes.

I'm lacking understanding behind why these fucking people are fighting each other and not the problem. Its a different form of oppression in its way and theyre feeding the fire.

Just like back in August most of the violence & looting was caused by outside agitators coming in from out of town. It's like a job for these assholes. They don't give a shit about Michael Brown dying. Their main objective is to instigate mob violence by riling up the locals to advance their own political agenda. They're loving this shit. "Divide & conquer" has been an effective strategy all through the ages, has it not?

Makes me fucking mad that the majority of people are so blind or just refuse to see what's right in front of them.

Originally Posted by toolshed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fuck the militarization of the police. Police with no badge, no name tags, military weapons and rolling down the street with a fucking tank.

How can any libertarian or conservative support this? I thought they were against "big government"?

I definitely don't support big government or the militarization of police (this is one of my worst nightmares -- the police state). See my comments above where I mention the political agenda of these fucking asshole scumbag agitators.

[Aviann]

When someone is trialed for charges against them, found not guilty through evidence, and people start thrashing their own fucking city about... I'd say it isn't big government that is the root of the problem. Had that happened down here, there would be boarded windows with a few shotguns to each house, loaded and eager to please the mother fuckers behind the trigger who see someone fucking with their shit before the police ever arrive. Same story, different career. The police in Ferguson are there for protection, not intimidation... And apparently they fucking need it with all the terrorizing they are doing to themselves.

[Duckwalk]

Originally Posted by Aviann [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When someone is trialed for charges against them, found not guilty through evidence, and people start thrashing their own fucking city about... I'd say it isn't big government that is the root of the problem. Had that happened down here, there would be boarded windows with a few shotguns to each house, loaded and eager to please the mother fuckers behind the trigger who see someone fucking with their shit before the police ever arrive. Same story, different career. The police in Ferguson are there for protection, not intimidation... And apparently they fucking need it with all the terrorizing they are doing to themselves.

You're a complete fucking idiot and should never speak again. Grand Jurys are not triers of fact. They exist to soley to determine if there is probable cause which is a very low standard of proof, often cited as a "fair chance" an action or at most 51%.

Officer Wilson may very well be innocent but the decision should have been made by a jury of his peers, not golfing buddies of the DA.

The citizens of Furgeson were robbed of due proceeds rights.

[Fael]

Originally Posted by Duckwalk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a complete fucking idiot and should never speak again. Grand Jurys are not triers of fact. They exist to soley to determine if there is probable cause which is a very low standard of proof, often cited as a "fair chance" an action or at most 51%.

Officer Wilson may very well be innocent but the decision should have been made by a jury of his peers, not golfing buddies of the DA.

The citizens of Furgeson were robbed of due proceeds rights.

You are a complete fucking idiot actually--not because your wrong, but because you call others idiots without cause. Contrary to the BS you spewed, all juries are triers of fact: they weigh evidence and make a determination of what the facts are; and, in the case of a grand jury, whether those facts provide reasonable grounds for bringing an indictment.

Missouri’s constitution provides that before a grand jury may return an indictment, it must determine that probable cause exists that a crime was committed and the defendant committed it. State v. Eyman, 818 S.W.2d 883, 887 (Mo. App. 1992) “The probable cause for initiating a prosecution is defined in Palermo v. Cottom, 525 S.W.2d 758, 764 (Mo.App.1975), as ‘reasonable grounds for suspicion, supported by circumstances in evidence sufficiently strong to warrant a cautious man in his belief that the person accused is guilty of the offense charged.’” Perry v. Dayton Hudson Corp. 789 S.W.2d 837, 841 (Mo.App. E.D. 1990) (citing Palermo v. Cottom, 525 S.W.2d at 764.)

Contrary to what you suggest, the standard is not as high as 51% (preponderance). It is in fact much lower: “The phrase ‘reasonable grounds’ means ‘that under the circumstances an ordinarily careful and prudent person after having made a reasonable inquiry would have believed the facts alleged and that the judicial proceeding was valid.” Perry v. Dayton Hudson Corp. 789 S.W.2d 837, 841 (Mo.App. E.D. 1990) (citing Palermo v. Cottom, 525 S.W.2d at 764.) “Further, the facts must be considered as the prosecuting party could have reasonably believed them to be under the circumstances at the time. Id.

Your confusion about the 51% standard stems from the two issues before the grand jury: (1) was there reasonable grounds to believe a crime had been committed, and (2) is the person to be charged more likely than not the person who committed it.

If you had listened to the prosecutor last night, there was never any doubt or question about the second issue.

In summary, take your own medicine and "never speak again."



Dolic