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07-23-2014, 05:49 PM
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How is group exp buff, loot and scoot, global OOC, and no item loot classic for red again?
I think before we start campaigning for minor things to be changed because "ZOMG CLASSIK!" we *need* to consider the realistic changes that need to happen because it's classic. I.e. - Monk epic not showing. An entire class's epic is broken atm by not showing it's particle Rogue epic particle isn't implemented, though proven hundreds fold over to have existed in classic. Pet exp penalty should be removed by now on the timeline Sneak/Hide has been posted through the nose to not be working as intended.. unchanged.. Classic resists capped at 255 Atrocious EXP bonuses given to players of red.. global OOC.. "loot and scoot" rules.. Current mob pathing speed is borked all to hell since last patch, mobs that have been confirmed not to move "very fast" are faster than jboots (Raptors, anyone?) No item loot from your precious twink on red? Can't pickpocket *most* humanoid mobs? The Ivandyr's hoop click effect nerf? Not classic Chickens in OT aren't considered "animal" anymore? Somehow? Even though other "animal" spells work on them, charm doesn't? Or maybe we could remove Red99 all together, because by "classic" standards most characters there are leveled with a tremendous exp bonus from grouping.. which isn't classic at all. But you're right, Nerdgon, we need to stop and remove item recharging.. because *that's* what's breaking YOUR classic experience, even though it's 100000000% classic. Make sure we don't fix the important non-classic stuff, we need to get to work on this game breaking classic mechanic. | ||
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07-23-2014, 11:16 PM
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A "true" classic experience is obviously not deliverable, for the reasons that people bring up every time and many more. Saying (or letting people think) "classic above all" is kind of inevitably gonna be shooting yourself in the foot. At some point you have to draw a line between having a broken/exploitable/trivial game and a technically non-classic one. I think it's worth considering that EQ was a massive low-budget game. Of course it was bursting with bugs, poor design decisions, unintuitive mechanics, etc etc. The world was too big and there were too many players to really have a good sense of all the things people were doing. And it's not like they had a lot of time to hunt bugs once things got off the ground and they were cranking out expansions every year (and back then, it actually meant putting effort into them). Taking the buggy mess that the game was on this date and calling it gospel is kinda silly. Yeah, you can dig up all the bugs they fixed and nerfs they made to that date, but it's not like they ever got more than the tip of the iceberg back then. In its own way, hewing close to classic on bug fixes and nerfs would be pretty arbitrary -- we know a lot more about where the bugs and overpowered things are now than they did at the time. I don't have any particular opinion about recharging (or much of anything) since I'm new here and more interested in design than play. But I will say that given how it works, recharging sounds pretty obviously like a bug brought about by a poor design decision (didja know older clients used the same item field for current charges as they did for stack amount? yeah, their servers probably did too) tl;dr no one's going to agree whether nostalgia down to the tiniest detail is more important than the feels of having no resources and no information and no 5 years of farming time or not, so don't bother. | |||
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07-23-2014, 11:20 PM
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07-23-2014, 05:57 PM
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/drama
I think limited boxing should be allowed, like how you can get an IP exemption for running 2 clients here. We all know those people who have their "gf or wife" play are really just 2 boxing anyway. It would help folks with limited off hour play time who wanted to play a non solo friendly class and didn't already have 5 alts with epics. Would also cut down on small scale RMT, folks wouldn't be dropping $$$ on fungi's if they had a pocket healer.
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07-23-2014, 06:05 PM
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/rofl
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07-23-2014, 06:16 PM
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Any 100% perfect classic set server will not be true classic experience because people simply know too much what they didn't 12-14 years ago. Just because elite few discovered how to recharge or how to MQ epics, doesn't mean 90% of the population did. Today everyone knows where, what and how. Therefore, it will never be "classic".
The best you can hope for is to create a decent reasonable environment with "whats better for the server" idea in mind. Of course everyone has his own ideas what that is, but mine would be very strict view on: -No boxing -No MQ -No recharging -No class XP penalties
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07-23-2014, 06:29 PM
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The whole point of what the Dev's are doing, I think, is trying to make it as classic as possible.. Therefore everything on that short list above should be allowed as it was classic, which it already is less boxing.
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#9
07-23-2014, 07:17 PM
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XD im so mad bro
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