Quest Issue: shaman epic faction WTF???

[Daldaen]

For shits and giggles I tested this out on live with new faction:

[Sun Jul 13 09:42:41 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Bondl
[Sun Jul 13 09:49:36 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Bondl
[Sun Jul 20 12:11:16 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Bondl
[Sat Jul 26 12:34:22 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Erud's Crossing
[Sat Jul 26 13:11:24 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Erud's Crossing
[Sat Jul 26 14:03:37 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Wandering Spirit
[Sat Jul 26 15:51:21 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Envy/Woe
[Sat Jul 26 15:55:05 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Spirit Sentinel (Sparkling Gem)
[Sat Jul 26 16:01:01 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Black Dire
[Sat Jul 26 16:18:17 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- CoM Reports
[Sat Jul 26 16:19:49 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Lord Ghiosk Books
[Sat Jul 26 16:36:53 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- High Scale Icon Turnin
[Sat Jul 26 16:42:19 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- High Scale Kirn Ring Turnin
[Sat Jul 26 16:44:28 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 695. -- Neh'Ashiir Book Turnin
[Sat Jul 26 16:50:01 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit could not possibly get any better. -- Bondl to max

^ Those are the faction hits live has currently for the quest. Interestingly everything is a +100 hit except Neh'Ashiir's turnin, which is 695.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For shits and giggles I tested this out on live with new faction:


[Sun Jul 20 12:11:16 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Bondl
[Sat Jul 26 13:11:24 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Erud's Crossing
[Sat Jul 26 14:03:37 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Wandering Spirit
[Sat Jul 26 15:51:21 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Envy/Woe
[Sat Jul 26 15:55:05 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Spirit Sentinel (Sparkling Gem)
[Sat Jul 26 16:01:01 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Black Dire
[Sat Jul 26 16:18:17 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- CoM Reports
[Sat Jul 26 16:19:49 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- Lord Ghiosk Books
[Sat Jul 26 16:36:53 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- High Scale Icon Turnin
[Sat Jul 26 16:42:19 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 100. -- High Scale Kirn Ring Turnin
[Sat Jul 26 16:44:28 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit has been adjusted by 695. -- Neh'Ashiir Book Turnin
[Sat Jul 26 16:50:01 2014] Your faction standing with Truespirit could not possibly get any better. -- Bondl to max

^ Those are the faction hits live has currently for the quest. Interestingly everything is a +100 hit except Neh'Ashiir's turnin, which is 695.

I cut out the duplicates. Those are all the steps in the shaman epic (per allakhazam guide) that I went through and did.

[mostbitter]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I cut out the duplicates. Those are all the steps in the shaman epic (per allakhazam guide) that I went through and did.

it def isn't working like that. I turned in something like 30+ gems to bondl, turned in multilple woe/envy multilple completed reports and 2x sets of the books from lord ghiosk

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by mostbitter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it def isn't working like that. I turned in something like 30+ gems to bondl, turned in multilple woe/envy multilple completed reports and 2x sets of the books from lord ghiosk

Like I mentioned earlier, I don't think it should work like that either. I don't know why Sony would change this stuff so many years after Kunark, but there's no way that everything was an equal +100 faction hit.

[Daldaen]

Bump.

Shamans should default to indifferent Truespirit. Every other class should default to Apprehensively.

If you feel so inclined to adjust faction values based on the EQLive ones that's your perogative. I have no way of proving either way that they are classic or not. Just what the new "show the faction amount" feature from EQLive showed when I did the epic factions.

[Byrjun]

Those faction hits are really fucking weird. It was 4 woe/envy turn ins at the most to max your faction, but that would only be +800 faction given your logs. But you're showing at least 1495 from that step to the end (+ whatever is after Neh Ashiir, seems like you didn't go further).

Something obviously got changed since that doesn't even correlate with my 2007 EQ Progression experience (where I used Woe/Envy to faction skip my epic). But why would they go back and alter the faction for the Kunark epic so late into EQ? Just so you could faction skip with the first turn in more easily?

Weird.

[Daldaen]

I may run through it on my 65 shaman I guess and see what happens. I'd be very intrigued if the faction hits are different on him than they are on my 100 Druid (who I did the ones posted above on. Had to burn a charge not my ornate velium pendant to get the spirit to talk to me!

[mostbitter]

Another problem down the line. I've turned in my black dire pelt. the next step is the completed book. I acquired it, filled it turned it in and the spirit sentinel won't accept it.


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From the wiki :


( ) Turn in pelt to Spirit Sentinel in Emerald Jungle. Receive Black Fur Boots! Get 6 slot booklet from the spirit.
( ) Collect 6 reports from the City of Mist for booklet.
( ) Combine and turn in completed booklet to Spirit Sentinel in Emerald Jungle.
( ) Kill Lord Ghiosk in the City of Mist and loot the 3 books.
( ) Turn in books to Spirit in Emerald Jungle.

The faction required for the turn in has got to be off if you can get the boots and the book but you can't turn the book in!

[Daldaen]

That would be interesting. The shaman, wizard and SK epics use TrueSpirit faction. Though the enchanter doesn't.

But enchanters are supposed to be one of the most versatile quest classes with their illusion abilities, so I wouldn't rule that out entirely.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Just facts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that made no sense, wouldnt chanters be same as others and then use spells to gain higher faction ?

We're talking about EQ here, a game where, for instance, a "good" paladin is expected to murder another "good" paladin (or hire out the job) in order to do his epic quest. Why would you expect anything to "make sense"?