Violation of Play Nice Policy GM plz read.

[DeruIsLove]

Shut up Tiggles

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't really care either way if guilds are allowed or not allowed to do this, but doesn't it seem a little ironic that you are complaining about a guild being forced off the server by players forming alliances when your guild used to brag about forcing IB off the server for out "competing" them?

One on One competition between two competing guilds is one thing. One large guild or multiple guilds picking on lesser guilds is not.

Strong guilds picking on small guilds is the reason the Class system was put into effect.

You are denying competition to smaller/newer guilds and have already killed GT and now trying to kill Lord bob because they didn't join your club.

[Wildino]

Lol, insta moved to RnF

Thanks to exist, Tiggles

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Wildino [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol, insta moved to RnF

Thanks to exist, Tiggles

I posted this to RNF, I only post in RNF.

Continue being insignificant.

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by Tiggles [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is strong arm mafia tactics to have multiple guilds following you around disrupting your raid attempts because you did not join into their racket.

Every story has 2 sides. Lord Bob have personally told me that they would find whatever mobs my guild is up for on the rotation and actively work to ensure that we would not get them.

They said that to me and I did NOT go out of my way to issue a guild wide blacklist against them. I've never done anything against them personally and they have made inflammatory comments towards me as a player and my guild on the raid scene.

If they said that to AG without provocation, I can only imagine the conversations they have had with multiple other guilds that are a bit... less restrained than us. If a guild personally wages war against 8 other guilds simultaneously can we expect them to attempt a raid mob unchallenged when they pop?

[Vyal]

Europa, BDA,Taken

These 3 guilds have come together and caused me more problems over the past week I have been back then Dolj did in a year.

Personally I support anyone who stands up against them.

Can't believe I am saying this but I wanna see more FTE without logic man but actually do something good this time.....

[Geofizzle]

I dont want to make this into a conflict but I suppose I'll post some pertinent logs:

[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] Targeted (Player): Marhault
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] Stand close to and right click on the Player to consider and inspect him. Use the /toggleinspect command to enable or disable right-click inspecting.
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] Targeted (NPC): Beanut's corpse
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] Right click on the NPC to consider him.
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] Talendor shouts 'How amusing. You foolish mortals actually think to challenge me? Very well, then, I shall enjoy searing the flesh from your bones!'
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] Talendor engages Drummer!
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] You may not loot this corpse at this time.
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:56 2014] Marhault is too far away to inspect. Get closer.
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:57 2014] Marhault regards you indifferently -- looks like quite a gamble.
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:57 2014] Slickstick tells the guild, 'idunno shea but in hate whene i get charmed i drop agro and get agro its annoying .. sounds like he landed cahrm reset and didnt agro u with train somehjow'
[Tue Jul 01 16:07:58 2014] Virtuos tells the guild, 'zoning?'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:00 2014] Solrias tells you, 'when only 1 person is on aggro, he de-aggros when charmed'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:04 2014] Diabolos tells the guild, '<<< Rezzing >>> <<< Illien >>>'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:04 2014] Diabolos begins to cast a spell.
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:07 2014] Solrias tells you, 'because he's no longer angry at anyone'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:07 2014] Houndstooth tells the guild, 'its safe'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:09 2014] Targeted (NPC): a chromadrac
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:09 2014] Right click on the NPC to consider it.
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:09 2014] a chromadrac scowls at you, ready to attack -- You would probably win this fight..it's not certain though.
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:11 2014] Jimsox tells the guild, 'Drummer new FTE'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:12 2014] Targeted (Player): Shea
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:12 2014] Right click on yourself to bring up your own inspect window. Use the /toggleinspect command to enable or disable right-click inspecting.
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:15 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:15 2014] ---------------------------
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:15 2014] [56 Troubadour] Drummer (Iksar) <Taken>
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:15 2014] There is 1 player in Skyfire Mountains.
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:15 2014] Youhou says out of character, 'Go go Taken !'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] ---------------------------
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] [56 Troubadour] Drummer (Iksar) <Taken>
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Cromcruach <Taken>
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] There are 2 players in Skyfire Mountains.
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:21 2014] Shimufukahale tells the guild, 'need rez on OT side of zone'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:24 2014] Hyjal tells the guild, 'REZ AND BUFF'
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:29 2014] Hyjal tells the guild, 'THEY MIGHT WIPE AS WELL'

[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] ---------------------------
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jimsox <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Roshanx <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Fetal
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Darkqueen <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Fiamma <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Dreconis <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Virtuos <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Elment <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Grave Lord] Tarnish (Ogre) <Asgard> LFG
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Bisquit <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Smokeys <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Meniel <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Encrust <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Hyjal <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Pattie
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Trollateral <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Houndstooth <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Illien <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [58 Templar] Treeborn (Gnome) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Sorcerer] Reiatsu (Dark Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[56 Myrmidon] Jacobius (Dwarf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Aldred <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Sojutsu <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Deeda <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Padilla <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Adolphus <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Salthin <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [56 Luminary] Scive (Barbarian) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Shorts <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Asterid <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Warlord] Marhault (Half Elf) <Indignation>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Piercesyu <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Bogking <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Amnos <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Youhou <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Warlock] Kharizzar (Skeleton) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Ceinwen <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [59 Troubadour] Dyzzi (Wood Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Waii <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[58 Conjurer] Malleus (High Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Mogulk <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[59 Myrmidon] Tenderizer (Wood Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Makrill <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 High Priest] Emarald (High Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Leiker <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Coopy <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [59 Master] Jyslia (Human) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Warlock] Iown (Dark Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Caligula <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Grulla <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [56 Master] Reeb (Human) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[58 Conjurer] Amery (High Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Haldailsoon <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Lisset <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Warlord] Lostprophets (Half Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Karmina <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Lalenya <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Nataz <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Zindra <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Urrsa <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Rikas <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Oracle] Thundarian (Barbarian) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Lalola <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Jazhara <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Cache <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Phantasmist] Kanaar (Skeleton) <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Kraagh <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Ssaul <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Patoso <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Fabby <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Slickstick <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Cromcruach <Taken>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[55 Templar] Heally (Dwarf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Yobert <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[50 Wizard] Wizarka (Dark Elf) <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Bloodthorn <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Phantasmist] Nabyha (Air Elemental) <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Grave Lord] Nuktari (Troll) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jamiee
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Trabian <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] <LINKDEAD>[ANONYMOUS] Tjatte <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Darkon <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Innie <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 Hierophant] Draeko (Wood Elf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [60 High Priest] Kustt (Dwarf) <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Daasgoot <Asgard>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [57 Templar] Solve (Human) <Europa>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Jimlahey <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Diabolos <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Shea <Doljonijiarnimorinar>
[Tue Jul 01 16:11:16 2014] There are 90 players in Skyfire Mountains.'

So Taken was there, actively helping this 3 raid force. I have more FTE logs of Cromcruanch involved as well.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by Geofizzle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] Players on EverQuest:
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] ---------------------------
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] [56 Troubadour] Drummer (Iksar) <Taken>
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] [ANONYMOUS] Cromcruach <Taken>
[Tue Jul 01 16:08:20 2014] There are 2 players in Skyfire Mountains.


So Taken was there, actively helping this 3 raid force. I have more FTE logs of Cromcruanch involved as well.

Wow, all 2 of them? Doesn't it take 3+ to flag the guild for lockout purposes? Just friends helping out it looks to me.

[Geofizzle]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wow, all 2 of them? Doesn't it take 3+ to flag the guild for lockout purposes? Just friends helping out it looks to me.

We're all friends here Ele. Doljo got outplayed fair and square here but I think tigs has somewhat of a point when 71 people team up to take down 23 players, less than half of whom are 60 who are trying for their first dragon attempt. On the other hand, things in SF were cordial this afternoon for the most part and Asgard even helped us with a couple of rezzes.

[Artaenc]

Originally Posted by Geofizzle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We're all friends here Ele. Doljo got outplayed fair and square here but I think tigs has somewhat of a point when 71 people team up to take down 23 players, less than half of whom are 60 who are trying for their first dragon attempt. On the other hand, things in SF were cordial this afternoon for the most part and Asgard even helped us with a couple of rezzes.

The way I see it you have two options here. You go against 71 people in two guilds or you go against 284+ people in 8 of class R guilds (2 guilds would be locked out at any given turn). That's what happens when all of class R goes FFA. That's about 35 players from each guild.

If you think 71 people can stun your growth think about the bigger picture when 284 of them stuns your growth. Don't over analyze, you should be happy there is a class R rotation.