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Yes. 89 44.95%
No, muh pixels. 46 23.23%
No, make a new classic timeline server. 63 31.82%
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:52 AM
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Jebus why? PoP killed EQ. Luclin was imo very cool apart from the Kilrathi...
Yeah I agree. I liked Luclin. And AAs gave reason to still use old zones. But PoP basically made the entire rest of the game useless.

Of course it's academic because no one will make a Luclin server anytime soon and certainly not nilbog.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:50 AM
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Jebus why? PoP killed EQ. Luclin was imo very cool apart from the Kilrathi...
Except no.

PoP was the greatest expansion. Subscriptions proved it. Reviews proved it. Lore proved it. Content proved it.

Best quests, raids and group content were available in PoP. It was also a culmination where you had conquered dragons and aliens, time to face the gods themselves. The expansion had something like 110~ Separate raid/multi-group events. Nothing else really comes close to that level of depth.

It is when tradeskills really took off in viability and worth. Probably also the point when balance was pretty damn near perfect. Wizards were excellent in groups and raids. Druids could now effectively heal most anywhere. Rangers were totally boss with bow damage and pretty formidable with melee. It took the weakest classes in groups and made everything more balanced between new spells and AAs.

People bitch and moan about PoK books. But those same people refuse to run from EC to Ro and require a Druid port. Bunch of hypocrits. And don't try to pull the interacting with players card, PoP required it just as much as classic. You needed help to get your keys and flags. Needed help to finish quests, get rezzes, do tradeskills, etc.

PoP confirmed best expansion.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:00 AM
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Except no.

PoP was the greatest expansion. Subscriptions proved it. Reviews proved it. Lore proved it. Content proved it.

Best quests, raids and group content were available in PoP. It was also a culmination where you had conquered dragons and aliens, time to face the gods themselves. The expansion had something like 110~ Separate raid/multi-group events. Nothing else really comes close to that level of depth.

It is when tradeskills really took off in viability and worth. Probably also the point when balance was pretty damn near perfect. Wizards were excellent in groups and raids. Druids could now effectively heal most anywhere. Rangers were totally boss with bow damage and pretty formidable with melee. It took the weakest classes in groups and made everything more balanced between new spells and AAs.

People bitch and moan about PoK books. But those same people refuse to run from EC to Ro and require a Druid port. Bunch of hypocrits. And don't try to pull the interacting with players card, PoP required it just as much as classic. You needed help to get your keys and flags. Needed help to finish quests, get rezzes, do tradeskills, etc.

PoP confirmed best expansion.
Man this Daldaen guy is like my long lost EverQuest twin. PoP was the greatest MMO expansion of all time. It was the first expansion that actually made tradeskills worth something. It finally realized a clear progression path for casual players and raiders via elemental armor and ornate armor. It had the elite feeling of locked zones via difficult content both raid and group. Amazing music, graphics, and you felt the true lore of Everquest in every zone you went into, culminating in the amazing plane of time. Anyone who hates PoP hates EverQuest IMO.
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Old 06-26-2014, 04:22 PM
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Except no.

PoP was the greatest expansion. Subscriptions proved it. Reviews proved it. Lore proved it. Content proved it.

Best quests, raids and group content were available in PoP. It was also a culmination where you had conquered dragons and aliens, time to face the gods themselves. The expansion had something like 110~ Separate raid/multi-group events. Nothing else really comes close to that level of depth.

It is when tradeskills really took off in viability and worth. Probably also the point when balance was pretty damn near perfect. Wizards were excellent in groups and raids. Druids could now effectively heal most anywhere. Rangers were totally boss with bow damage and pretty formidable with melee. It took the weakest classes in groups and made everything more balanced between new spells and AAs.

People bitch and moan about PoK books. But those same people refuse to run from EC to Ro and require a Druid port. Bunch of hypocrits. And don't try to pull the interacting with players card, PoP required it just as much as classic. You needed help to get your keys and flags. Needed help to finish quests, get rezzes, do tradeskills, etc.

PoP confirmed best expansion.
popularity means nothing. Most often MMO's at their peak have alreayd been watered down and simplified so that any old schmoe can pick up andplay without a seconds thought, or any sort of true effort. This is blatantly a grab at more cash in the p2p model. Wow as an example... Despite the fact that the population steadily climbed through the first three expansions, and they added tons of new features... vanilla is the best era for WoW. The game poses more challenge there than any other point in time, which gives it a more realistic feel.
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Old 06-26-2014, 07:38 PM
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Wow as an example... Despite the fact that the population steadily climbed through the first three expansions, and they added tons of new features... vanilla is the best era for WoW. The game poses more challenge there than any other point in time, which gives it a more realistic feel.
Strongly disagree. That's as silly as the "EQ is harder than WoW" nonsense people yammer on about.

WoW's hardest period is almost inarguably Burning Crusade. Couple Cataclysm heroic raids and two of the WotLK heroic raids are a close second in difficulty tiers, then maybe AQ40 and OG Naxx, then other content*. If you honestly thought Onyxia or BWL or Ragnaros were hard, you were just really bad at video games.

The "free loot" bosses of later expansions are roughly Onyxia/MC level of difficulty. Even those bosses are harder than literally anything in Classic EQ. Classic EQ raiding is primarily about racing other guilds to the loot pinata and passing your gear check. This is x100 on this server where everything is totally played out and overgeared.


*disclaimer: I know nothing about MoP.
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Old 06-26-2014, 01:50 AM
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What I would love to see is a rotation new server :3 One that is set up to reset every year or so....BUT, when it resets, all characters are moved to the main p1999 server.

That way anyone who wants the "new server experience" could join the server that cycles itself....while still allowing people to keep their characters and join the late game server.

As has been said...even if you reset the main server, after a year the server will be farmed / twinked out anyway. The ONLY way to keep giving people that classic fresh option is to keep resetting (but that punishes casual gamers and people who really become attached to their characters). A 2 server system makes everyone happy.

((If you really want to get fancy, don't just wipe the rotation server....and give people an option to move their characters to the 1999 server or "rebirth" their characters on the rotation server. If they choose to rebirth and are higher than level 50, then they get a legacy title? Or some other badge of honor?))
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:19 AM
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No resets. Not classic! The whole point in waking up the Sleeper is to experience Norrath afterwards.
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Old 06-26-2014, 09:46 AM
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Ok I will admit my ignorance on this. I was only on live until about 6 months tops after velious was released. I had no idea what the sleeper actually was. After having read the description on the wiki, I would like to change my vote. This sounds pretty awesome to me.
Again, I was ignorant to this particular part of eq history. Please flame me to the appropriate degree. Thank you.
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:05 AM
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True, PoP was one of the least worst expansioms
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Old 06-26-2014, 10:05 AM
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Crypt of Decay, the amazing music and ambiance. Solsek Ro tower. Bastion of Thunder. plane of earth. The amazing earring tradeskill quest, power of the elements quest, epic boss models, I could go on forever. Man PoP was so fucking good.
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