For those that questioned Salem's integrity

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Not Salem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Already been adressed Retti, if Lithiuum was in front of Teeks in the water, he would not have been seen because his UI literally blocked 1/3rd of his screen.

Furthermore in none of the examples shown by Elderan, does the character screendragging speed up. However in the examples shown of characters swimming across the water, all speed up.

Listen, I only ever base my opinions on evidence and I am completely unbiased when facts are in front of me. So I took the time and watched your video about 5 times, breaking each one down.

Every time someone in your video warped, they warped down into the water and only slightly ahead of their prior position. This is strafe warping and very common to see in pvp as it is legal. None of your examples looked like the Teeks video. If Teeks had shown anyone in our guild an example of what you did in your example video then no one would have said screen drag.

[Not Salem]

Yeah I agree with Elderan, in the 2 weeks prior to Lithiuum being banned, during the time frame that Beastagor was banned for training Hoshkar (which was later proved to the GM's I didn't do), both Raenys and Drez screendragged to try and avoid dying to me on my rogue.

I doubt either will be now after I ate this ban.

[Not Salem]

Originally Posted by Syft

But we have to be careful not to just toss bans around.

Originally Posted by Salem

2 weeks prior to Lithiuum being banned, during the time frame that Beastagor was banned for training Hoshkar (which was later proved to the GM's I didn't do)

i feel ya

[Not Salem]

Originally Posted by Salem

if Lithiuum was in front of Teeks in the water, he would not have been seen because his UI literally blocked 1/3rd of his screen.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Not Salem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if Lithiuum was in front of Teeks in the water, he would not have been seen because his UI literally blocked 1/3rd of his screen.

In all of your examples the person warped from top to water at the point they disappeared on top of the water. In Teeks video your shaman did not disappear on top of the water until almost the wall. Even though Teeks UI blocked the lower portion closest to him, it had a clear view of the wall and water below it where your shaman poofed.

[LulzSect]

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[Not Salem]

Understood but as previously mentioned most of the people I had swim down to demonstrate the graphical bug just swam down while still swimming forward.

The example shown of Lite following me on Beastagor, swimming in the opposite direction showed quite the difference. Frame by frame for you :

Gaanon swimming forward :

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In this example your argument would hold strong, Gaanon appeared right below where he was in the water, and probably had I been further back I still would of seen him even with an atrocious UI

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Beastagor (myself) swimming in the opposite direction I was running

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Here you can see me changing direction while appearing under the water in another direction, literally .04 seconds in between those two pictures (check the video editor time line), and on the frame .04 seconds after that I'm off the screen entirely, this would be another example of finding LIthiuum in Teeks original video. It is very possible to disappear as shown in Teeks video without screendragging.

EDIT: Hopefully I don't have to make another video to demonstrate this further.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Not Salem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here you can see me changing direction while appearing under the water in another direction, literally .04 seconds in between those two pictures (check the video editor time line), and on the frame .04 seconds after that I'm off the screen entirely, this would be another example of finding LIthiuum in Teeks original video. It is very possible to disappear as shown in Teeks video without screendragging.

EDIT: Hopefully I don't have to make another video to demonstrate this further.

I think the biggest thing people see a difference in is the distance from Lithium/Teeks vs Beastagor/Lite and how close Lithium was to the wall. If Teeks was right up on Lithium and it happened I don't think anyone would even second guess it.

Don't waste your time making more videos though. Respect from enemies on this server doesn't matter. No one cares and everyone is biased no matter what they say or maybe even believe themselves. Your friends still like you, your enemies still hate you. Just work on getting your account unbanned with the GMs.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by Not Salem [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Beastagor (myself) swimming in the opposite direction I was running

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The image is right before you poofed in your example video. Notice that the SS is in first person mode and that Beastagore is much closer than lith is to Teeks in the SS from the original video below.

In this SS it clearly shows a large viewing area due to the distance and the 3rd person view. If you did as in your example we would have seen Lith somewhere in the red circle area warp into the water.

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[FaithlessKR]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The image is right before you poofed in your example video. Notice that the SS is in first person mode and that Beastagore is much closer than lith is to Teeks in the SS from the original video below.

In this SS it clearly shows a large viewing area due to the distance and the 3rd person view. If you did as in your example we would have seen Lith somewhere in the red circle area warp into the water.

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and who's to say that teeks didn't lag a little right there?? Like I said...Lithiuum being under water less than 4 seconds later channeling a torpor is kind of shooting your evidence in the foot. There is no proof of anything in your video, just put your tinfoil hat away bro.

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