Didn't Derubael and other GM's agree something was needed for end game?

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by Quiet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bangan the 60 Shaman was forced to gate by Greegon the level 55 Rogue, with Ranger and Monk Help? Yet the level 60 Ranger was still there? That's just poor play.

Yes you were there staring at the wall asking what happened to our shaman as we were PVPing.

[Quiet]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes you were there staring at the wall asking what happened to our shaman as we were PVPing.

This event took place after they changed the level range to 4. I know this because Greegon has never once been in range of me ever. Idiot.
Which is why I pointed out he was 55 and a 60 shaman gated. Because he wasn't in range to be attacked... idiot.

[Gaanon]

Originally Posted by Quiet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This event took place after they changed the level range to 4. I know this because Greegon has never once been in range of me ever. Idiot.

It was Belch I was mistaken, gotta go GL Quiet. Never experienced such a scrub till you came along!

[Koota]

Bill Paxton is black, so, yes.

[Quiet]

I'd accept that comparison.

[Quiet]

Red Dawn died because Azrael crew got their pixels and bolted, Checkraise became a lying sack of shit making deals with Nihilum which just pushed non-Azrael crew to Azrael and theres no place for a 3rd tier guild in a game that has no 3rd tier mobs.

[Sheriff]

Originally Posted by Quiet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Red Dawn died because Azrael crew got their pixels and bolted, Checkraise became a lying sack of shit making deals with Nihilum which just pushed non-Azrael crew to Azrael and theres no place for a 3rd tier guild in a game that has no 3rd tier mobs.

1. Not sure what pixels Azrael got. And btw other than "the core" most the people that left rd for azrael are gone. 2. HB never said we wouldn't talk with Nihilum. 3. If you have 80% of your guild 50-59 and you want to play with the big boys you gotta make a deal on either side Azrael or Nihilum.

[Gaanon]

Anyhow I'm out, keep making this about Az/Nihi, instead of asking why is there only one guild on a PVP server. (No one can compete with this ruleset)

Make a bunch of explanations, as most of you have came from failed guilds that joined Nihi, it is amusing.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyhow I'm out, keep making this about Az/Nihi, instead of asking why is there only one guild on a PVP server. (No one can compete with this ruleset)

Make a bunch of explanations, as most of you have came from failed guilds that joined Nihi, it is amusing.

Don't need to ask when we already explained why: cuz no1 else tries and when they do, Az is there to try their best to stop it.

[Buhbuh]

Originally Posted by Gaanon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Anyhow I'm out, keep making this about Az/Nihi, instead of asking why is there only one guild on a PVP server. (No one can compete with this ruleset)

Make a bunch of explanations, as most of you have came from failed guilds that joined Nihi, it is amusing.

you brought up a topic and listed why it doesn't work on this server, specifically citing nihilum and lite's unwillingness to be another large guild like them as potential reasons.

my question is: how exactly are people supposed to extricate this topic of simulated repop from the current server dynamic when you're presenting it to them with both of those things conflated as one subject?

i'm not really sure why people have such a hard time with this.

"because it creates competition"

How?

"because Nihilum can't be everywhere at once"

if you want to argue for something that's for the good of the server, then you need to stop citing those guilds you're so fond of not citing; you need to stop mentioning what they've done to the server, what they're capable of, what abilities they have as leaders, as well as your history of the guilds in your arguments.

I could go into more depth about the ways you're doing exactly that, but i'm lazy and don't want to find the quotes.

you could just be honest with yourselves and say it is about the guilds on the server, and that no one has stood a chance against Nihilum in the server's history, and that they've had a strangle hold on most of the content for the better part of three years. you can say you think it should be harder for Nihilum to control everything.

you could say all of those things and cite them as reasons for simulated repop. but you're now making it about the current server dynamic, and specifically directed toward and tailored for opposing that dominant guild.