Variance

[lite]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where is this magical pvp coming from? You're going to kill some level 10 ranger hidden in a corner in seb or something? You gonna kill the level 1 ranger in VP behind 100 mobs who logs in for 30 seconds? Sounds like fun pvp.

Where exactly are you planning to park these toons whrre I couldnt figure out their placement within 2 30 second track ssessions? I am sorry you spent too much time at the zoneline as a tank class. The shit you are attempting to make seem as difficult is actually very trivial.100mobs ? Vp agroo range Iis tiny and most shit doesnt see invis. No offense but you dont have the exposure to understand how easy these track bots would get destroyed on a pvp server. To keep track of mobs you will need a presence that will get pvpd. If you still think you can successfully hide these toons go for it and I will show you how ineffective they are.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where exactly are you planning to park these toons whrre I couldnt figure out their placement within 2 30 second track ssessions? I am sorry you spent too much time at the zoneline as a tank class. The shit you are attempting to make seem as difficult is actually very trivial.100mobs ? Vp agroo range Iis tiny and most shit doesnt see invis. No offense but you dont have the exposure to understand how easy these track bots would get destroyed on a pvp server. To keep track of mobs you will need a presence that will get pvpd. If you still think you can successfully hide these toons go for it and I will show you how ineffective they are.

You realize that you only need to login the tracker bot every hour or two for thirty seconds right? Holy fuck a lot of dumb people on the boards today. Also lol at my exposure. I played here at release with 600 players, when you had to constantly sell your shit and buy gems to not lose everything after being coined. You rolled here when it was already dead box. I know VP. I know that I can park ranger bots that I can easily camp out in thirty seconds. And if I can't? Oh well call LNS and camp out in zone for an hour per Sirken rule and log right back in again with literally nothing lost. Sounds like incredibly thrilling pvp at its best.

[BeautBabeC]

Naw lets let the same couple of leaders in nihilum recruit all the weak minded. Hopefully everyone else will quit soon that'll probably be for the best. Lets keep living the same cycle of success instead of trying something new

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by BeautBabeC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Naw lets let the same couple of leaders in nihilum recruit all the weak minded. Hopefully everyone else will quit soon that'll probably be for the best. Lets keep living the same cycle of success instead of trying something new

Weak minded? What do you expect fresh blood on this server to do? Why would they join a guild that repeatedly goes on hiatus, does nothing to help new blood, constantly is in flux, trolls ooc and forums hard as fuck, etc.? You guys refuse to accept that azrael is not a guild that is inviting to new players here. It has nothing to do with being weak minded. People just don't want to play with you.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know VP.

[lite]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You realize that you only need to login the tracker bot every hour or two for thirty seconds right? I know VP. I know that I can park ranger bots that I can easily camp out in thirty seconds.

after you pop in once or twice we will know exactly where this toon is parked and be waiting for you. dont need 30 seconds... what ? you think you will be able to just keep moving the toon around each time, how many spots do you think a lvl 10 can sit at safely in vp with PD track radius ? lol. You play a warrior in VP, you have limited exposure, it's not your fault.

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And if I can't? Oh well call LNS and camp out in zone for an hour per Sirken rule and log right back in again with literally nothing lost. Sounds like incredibly thrilling pvp at its best.

and then the Phara dar spawns during the LNS hour, sweet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] sounds like a sound tactic. or once the LNS hour is up for your level 10 ranger what do you do ... run him back through skyfire and zone him to VP where Azrael is waiting ? lowbie trackers are not a viable option in FFA zones with 15 year old maps that people know like the back of their hands ... these super sweet haxor spots that you think only you can think of, sorry, they are common knowledge.

[Feniggles]

Originally Posted by lite [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

after you pop in once or twice we will know exactly where this toon is parked and be waiting for you. dont need 30 seconds... what ? you think you will be able to just keep moving the toon around each time, how many spots do you think a lvl 10 can sit at safely in vp with PD track radius ? lol. You play a warrior in VP, you have limited exposure, it's not your fault.




and then the Phara dar spawns during the LNS hour, sweet [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] sounds like a sound tactic. or once the LNS hour is up for your level 10 ranger what do you do ... run him back through skyfire and zone him to VP where Azrael is waiting ? lowbie trackers are not a viable option in FFA zones with 15 year old maps that people know like the back of their hands ... these super sweet haxor spots that you think only you can think of, sorry, they are common knowledge.

move on, varience never happening. we all want to see what you whine about next. my guess is youwill cry guilds should be hard capped at 30 people.

[Mac Drettj]

The only way variance helps a small guild is if someone in that small guild has a Private Tunnel army of 5-10 bots at every spot

Jahfeel?

Hope hivenerd quotes this in his octaragepost

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Mac Drettj [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way variance helps a small guild is if someone in that small guild has a Private Tunnel army of 5-10 bots at every spot

Jahfeel?

Hope hivenerd quotes this in his octaragepost

You talkin shit on the coach?

[heartbrand]

Variance basically destroys azraels one so called advantage, pvp, by turning the game into a contest of who can mobilize faster and better. A contest nihilum will win the vast majority of the time. You guys think you're going to see Trakanon on track and suddenly sneak 25 azrael there who answer the bat phone without 50 dukesmen logging on for triple dkp bonus? Holy fuck you people are dumb. Variance is great for me because it's far easier for me to log on for five minutes multiple times a week for a mob at a time than it is for an entire fucking day on the weekend, and yet I still think it's dumb as fuck.

Having said that, there are intriguing completely custom ways you could go which I believe would fix a lot of issues, but will never happen, such as staggered Repops with global text an hour before they pop. You get complete unknown variance but global text so no poopsocking. Gives you something to fight over every day. Shrug.