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Old 06-01-2014, 02:20 PM
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Between last year and the previous year the China yuan changed from 2% to 9% of global monetary exchanges. This is not an insignificant amount. The more we play games with the value of our currency the less appealing it is to other countries. Also, despite the shadow numbers the Chinese government puts forth about their economics, their economy will overtake ours. If we continue down current spending levels their currency will be worth more than ours.

Rome fell before, it will fall again.
http://data.worldbank.org/country/china

http://data.worldbank.org/country/united-states#cp_fin

some interesting data there to compare. rome didn't have the technology nor the means, but the u.s. is going to enter into post-empire slowly. slower than the u.k. did, and milk it for everything.
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Old 05-30-2014, 05:23 PM
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It does make you wonder if the increase in earth quakes or typhoons and so forth are being caused by man-made technology to disrupt the economies their enemies.
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It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.
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It would make sense. The U.S. and its main rivals are locked in M.A.D. so they have to resort to proxy wars and other less direct methods like cyber warfare, economic warfare etc etc. Weather war would be hard to trace and is far more devastating over a wider area Not to mention the demoralizing affects of such actions. Causing drought conditions for instance could lead to famine which leads to internal strife causing a revolt or coup. Then you send in recovery crews to profit from redevelopment. Pretty sweet deal these guys are working.
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Old 05-31-2014, 02:21 PM
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Those are just possible scenarios. Sanctions come with unexpected backlash. Who is going to question mother nature? Geo-engineering being another.

Just a hint that the US could cause earthquakes and shut down your infrastructure is enough to be a deterrent as well. Nukes are just too dirty warfare is beyond that now.

People mentioned HAARP and if it is being used to manipulate or weaponize weather but there are many other uses for the technology. Weather manipulation could just be a side effect for all anyone in the public knows.
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Those are just possible scenarios. Sanctions come with unexpected backlash. Who is going to question mother nature? Geo-engineering being another.

Just a hint that the US could cause earthquakes and shut down your infrastructure is enough to be a deterrent as well. Nukes are just too dirty warfare is beyond that now.

People mentioned HAARP and if it is being used to manipulate or weaponize weather but there are many other uses for the technology. Weather manipulation could just be a side effect for all anyone in the public knows.
i understand that, but the game is to never show your hand. if there were a pattern of odd weather in countries with conflict with the US then it wouldn't take the international community very long to figure out what's going on. too many eye balls.

post cold war is all about technology, covert, and economic attacks.
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i understand that, but the game is to never show your hand. if there were a pattern of odd weather in countries with conflict with the US then it wouldn't take the international community very long to figure out what's going on. too many eye balls.

post cold war is all about technology, covert, and economic attacks.
Which is exactly what weather manipulation is. We are not the only county who can do this. There is speculation that Russia, China, France and some others do this. There is a HAARP like facility in the Caribbean. Perhaps those facilities defend the US from weather manipulation?

It is all very over the public's head and sounds too sci-fi for most to believe but they would not have treaties that they ignore apparently against it if it were not possible and that was 30+ years ago the tech now probably blows that away.

Stuff everyone has suspected for years is becoming public like railguns the navy are using and there has been a lot of chatter about some type of electrical weapon that was used in Iraq and surrounding places.
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Which is exactly what weather manipulation is. We are not the only county who can do this. There is speculation that Russia, China, France and some others do this. There is a HAARP like facility in the Caribbean. Perhaps those facilities defend the US from weather manipulation?

It is all very over the public's head and sounds too sci-fi for most to believe but they would not have treaties that they ignore apparently against it if it were not possible and that was 30+ years ago the tech now probably blows that away.

Stuff everyone has suspected for years is becoming public like railguns the navy are using and there has been a lot of chatter about some type of electrical weapon that was used in Iraq and surrounding places.
in terms of weather, i doubt that humans have been keeping records long enough of weather patterns to know if there's a true hiccup. because we don't know doesn't give evidence to man-made manipulation. correlation causation kind of deal (feel free to insert the cliche about waking up [i really hate the matrix but that's another thread]). also, i'm not ignoring the art of deception that swish was talking about either.
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