The New TMO

[hatelore]

So now the TOP guild, the PREMIER guild, Has un-guilded toons pull for them? Yeah, that doesn't sound in the least bit shady to anyone. Not even slightly.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by hatelore [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So now the TOP guild, the PREMIER guild, Has un-guilded toons pull for them? Yeah, that doesn't sound in the least bit shady to anyone. Not even slightly.

Total conspiracy. You got me. Last mob left in window outside of vp with 2 hours left on window and clearly tmo can only get 1 tracker out there. Clearly no time to ask this guy on the pull what guild he's in.

I truly cannot figure out this server's hatred for "The New TMO", really. Loot is evenly and openly distributed. Rules are followed well (minus mistakes like the fistn incident, which we paid for with xygoz) and trolling is kept to about the same as any other RNF guild. Tiggles still sometimes knocks em out of the park, and pras for that, but there's no egregious attacks or boasting. We show up to raid 2 days a week, get mobs, and do chardok aoe just like the rest of you guys. The fuck is the deal here guys--hatelore, can you list two people in TMO you have personal grudges against?

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I truly cannot figure out this server's hatred for "The New TMO", really.

I've been on p99 for close to two months now, met people that have been playing on the server for a long time, and asked them the what's what and who's who.

Apparently, and i'm quoting various people here, TMO did many nasty shit, many times, for a long time. I've heard things like locking down the entire server's raid targets, not because you need the items to progress further, but to deny other people from progressing. Many other things too, but this one in particular stood out.

I guess you don't mind that, and probably even enjoy it too. You even said, and i quote you word for word "EQ is about rubbing your nuts on the face of opposing guilds." In a previous post, in that very thread.

See, i disagree with you on that. EQ is about many things, but more importantly, the things you want it to be. It's about personal enjoyment. If you enjoy sitting in the tunnel and flip items to get rich, or log once a week and explore a dungeon with your friends, and it's what's fun for you, then more power to you. There's no definite way to play EQ.

But for you, you seem to get your fun dominating other guilds by denying them access to content you don't even need, just to "rub your nuts in their face". That's what your guild is about right? Correct me if i'm wrong. People who play computer games tend to have a good memory and don't forgive easily. Reputations are set in stone and as long as the tag <The Mystical Order> will exist, it will be like that. No matter if it's the new-improved-ameliorated-5.0-TMO, i think you guys reached a point where too much shit happened and the hatred will never die.

I don't have anything against TMO or you personally, i enjoy the game my own way, but you if you can't figure the hate for TMO, look at your guild's past and current reason for existing.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Erydan Ouragan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've been on p99 for close to two months now, met people that have been playing on the server for a long time, and asked them the what's what and who's who.

Apparently, and i'm quoting various people here, TMO did many nasty shit, many times, for a long time. I've heard things like locking down the entire server's raid targets, not because you need the items to progress further, but to deny other people from progressing. Many other things too, but this one in particular stood out.

I guess you don't mind that, and probably even enjoy it too. You even said, and i quote you word for word "EQ is about rubbing your nuts on the face of opposing guilds." In a previous post, in that very thread.

See, i disagree with you on that. EQ is about many things, but more importantly, the things you want it to be. It's about personal enjoyment. If you enjoy sitting in the tunnel and flip items to get rich, or log once a week and explore a dungeon with your friends, and it's what's fun for you, then more power to you. There's no definite way to play EQ.

But for you, you seem to get your fun dominating other guilds by denying them access to content you don't even need, just to "rub your nuts in their face". That's what your guild is about right? Correct me if i'm wrong. People who play computer games tend to have a good memory and don't forgive easily. Reputations are set in stone and as long as the tag <The Mystical Order> will exist, it will be like that. No matter if it's the new-improved-ameliorated-5.0-TMO, i think you guys reached a point where too much shit happened and the hatred will never die.

I don't have anything against TMO or you personally, i enjoy the game my own way, but you if you can't figure the hate for TMO, look at your guild's past and current reason for existing.

When I say EQ, I mean the raid scene. And when I mean rubbing nuts, it's tmo v IB for ffa/c mobs. We have literally no interaction with the R guilds.

Every bit of that nasty shit was zeelot's tmo. Since the reform, not a single occurence. Admittedly I'd be a little salty waiting months for an epic when tmo/ib are gearing alts, but that's just the nature of high end EQ if you wish to maintain a competitive (sometimes to unhealthy levels :P) environment. As much shit as we talk to IB, we'd be kind of crestfallen without them there. And they us.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Actually, a small addendum: High end raiding here has some skill to it, lots of time investment, and a ton of personality / politics. Raiding here with a dash of RNF is essentially pro wrestling. Rogean is the commissioner and the GMs are essentially JR. It's that drama and politics that keep some of us coming back, and I suppose if you didn't see the forest for the trees in that we'd come off as terribly cocky.

In the end I feel it's best for you to know your role and shut your mouth, you roody-poo candy ass :3

[Erydan Ouragan]

Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When I say EQ, I mean the raid scene. And when I mean rubbing nuts, it's tmo v IB for ffa/c mobs. We have literally no interaction with the R guilds.

Every bit of that nasty shit was zeelot's tmo. Since the reform, not a single occurence. Admittedly I'd be a little salty waiting months for an epic when tmo/ib are gearing alts, but that's just the nature of high end EQ if you wish to maintain a competitive (sometimes to unhealthy levels :P) environment. As much shit as we talk to IB, we'd be kind of crestfallen without them there. And they us.

That's the problem right there. At what point is enough is enough? If people are waiting months for epics, why are you gearing alts? Just because you can? Why not let them have it, or at least just try? I'll tell you why, in my opinion:

It's not about the competitive environment. It's about ego and status. You're holding the top guild position on the server. You have the best gear and have the hardest zone on farm status, you could totally give mobs to other guilds, hell, you could even help them, but then, they would get the best gear too right? And if that happened, you wouldn't be the top guild anymore. Let me ask you this: if raid R and C classes didn't exist and everything was still FTE, would the new TMO share raid targets with other guilds?

If zeelot is gone and TMO is a new guild, legit and everything, then i think you guys should have reformed under another name, because of everything that happened in the past. Don't you think?

[hatelore]

He is guilded now, but as your guildy sirken stated, He has pulled numerous times before and he wasn't guilded.

[Thulack]

/auction WTS FTE rights. I'll unguild my toons and sell FTE rights to whoever gives me the most loot from the mob.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by Thulack [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/auction WTS FTE rights. I'll unguild my toons and sell FTE rights to whoever gives me the most loot from the mob.

VS went down like this a few times. Anyone remember what the ruling was on that? I believe it was some newbie who got the VS FTE and did actually sell it to TMO for like 100k? Was during the zeelot era before my time. Tiggles or Jeremy you guys remember?

[hatelore]

Lol, no reason to change the discussion as if we all hate tmo. I personally have zero grudges against anyone in tmo, nor do I even care what goes on on blue to be truthfully honest.

But that shit did sound hella shady. And if you were still competing with Tmo... I am pretty sure you would agree and be fighting tooth and nail against it.