Freedom From Atheism Foundation

[Rhuma7]

Originally Posted by Shamalam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, there does not HAVE to be a force behind the start of the universe. I'm denying it.

WHAT NOW

Who created god? Who created the creator of god? Who created the creator of the creator of god? X Infinite.

There has to be a force behind the start of the universe. Its undeniable.

Upon reading this thought process it would actually be logical that in fact there was nothing and nothing created itself. Now, as a logical critical thinking minded, Agnostic as myself would have to believe that just can't be possible but with that in mind, that is clearly the only way anything could be possible, God or no god.

The universe is expanding faster than the speed of light from the big bang and something was festering in the center of the universe, expanding and contracting til its inevitable explosion.

[Daldolma]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any claim about our origins or purpose is an extraordinary claim. That includes the theory of evolution. There would have to be undeniable proof of the evolutionary process in order for it to be universally accepted as true. There would have to be undeniable evidence that the origins of the universe are as described by evolutionary scientists. There is no such evidence. There will always be those in favor of a anti God theory of life. There always have been. And there will always be those with with a pro God theory of life. There always have been. But one thing that cannot be debated is that everything that exists in the physical universe has to have had a first cause. There is no getting around that.

of course there is. there is getting around everything.

we don't know dick about the origins of the universe or the origins of life. we don't know how time works, either. our entire planet is smaller than a grain of sand in the grand scheme of the universe, which we date to ~14 billion years. we're infinitesimal, and we've been here for an infinitesimal period of time. modern science has existed for what? less than 100 years? lol. we can't rule out anything at all.

we haven't even managed to get humans to the nearest planet. we haven't even discovered every type of life form on our own planet. hell, we don't even know all the details of what our own brains do.

we're ignorant as fuck. believing in a deity is no more absurd than believing anything else. we could all be a part of an elaborate computer simulation. or worse, we could all be a part of a really simple computer simulation.

believe what you want. people who try to convince you otherwise are ignorant of their own ignorance

[Whirled]

Dr. Hans Reinhardt: Some cause must have created all this, but what caused that cause?

[Ahldagor]

so much talk of logic without it being mentioned that logic is the rule of non contradiction within rhetoric. rhetoric is a method of persuasion that uses logical arguments in order to establish an authority over the convinced. you're all wanting that power of authority like good god seekers.

[Nihilist_santa]

Originally Posted by Ahldagor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

so much talk of logic without it being mentioned that logic is the rule of non contradiction within rhetoric. rhetoric is a method of persuasion that uses logical arguments in order to establish an authority over the convinced. you're all wanting that power of authority like good god seekers.

The balls on this one. Read your own statement then get back to us.

[Ahldagor]

Originally Posted by Nihilist_santa [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The balls on this one. Read your own statement then get back to us.

"language is the house of being" mein freund

[Shamalam]

inb4 been*

[jarshale]

*tips fedora*

[Shamalam]

An open letter to all non-atheists in this thread:

Out of the hundreds of religions across the world, YOU were born in to the right one. How fortunate!

Out of the millions of gods over the course of human history, YOU chose the right one to worship. You're so fucking smart!

Out of the infinite amount of possible outcomes after death, YOU know exactly what's going to happen, because Jesus said so. If only we could all be so enlightened!

Basically, you've got it all figured out. Must feel pretty great! Good for you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Hastley]

Originally Posted by Shamalam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

An open letter to all non-atheists in this thread:

Out of the hundreds of religions across the world, YOU were born in to the right one. How fortunate!

Out of the millions of gods over the course of human history, YOU chose the right one to worship. You're so fucking smart!

Out of the infinite amount of possible outcomes after death, YOU know exactly what's going to happen, because Jesus said so. If only we could all be so enlightened!

Basically, you've got it all figured out. Must feel pretty great! Good for you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

are you a girl IRL?