All these IB RNF's in the last day or so...

[kenzar]

more desync than wipe

[Jarnauga]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

When have we struggled with Hoshkar ? We had a complete desync on him when you guys camped out during an engage. The rest of the time we have engaged Hosh we killed him with minimal losses. You guys still struggle to get dps to login to kill the dragons you pull.

This is literally the truth.. There was more respect from TMO leadership shown than from Getsome. From the first conversations they were the more reasonable and even minded people that discussed things with our leadership. It makes a difference. Respect goes a long way. IB has some great players so don't take what I say as disrespect. But if it comes to being absorbed it is the weaker option overall especially when the leadership is giving literally zero respect during discussion or concessions to make things easier for everyone to accept. Simple answer for merging Velious is on the horizon our goal was always to form the strongest guild we could.

When IB slammed the door via Getsome thinking we had to accept his terms or else and we wouldn't and he basically quit discussions because of his stubborness. It made the decision easy. People in our guild let go of their grudges to do what was best for everyone going forward. They were reasonable even though it was hard for a few of the members to let go of some things. It's saying a lot when those same members were unwilling to except IB's, terms but would work with TMO.

But why not co-leader of TMO though ?

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Lazie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's the thing IB expected us to just accept being absorbed and accept unreasonable terms.

The same exact unreasonable terms that TMO gave you, which suddenly became reasonable. 'Cause 70 man zerg raids and loot and shit, hell yea.

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[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Come on guys, we raided together for months during FE/Ib's alliance.

Truth: Before Getsome disrespected every member of FE by continually renegotiating the terms of our merger, we were all pretty close buds. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


So you all have to realize how easy it is for former friends to see through your bullshit posts and see how mad/jelly you guys are, right? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


Truth: You guys fucked up...and now you're paying the price for your pride. All this smear campaign is going to accomplish is embarrassment for you and your guildies. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


Give it up while you're ahead.


Good luck in velious, IB. I hope that all the loot FE was gracious enough to share with you when you would show up with 1/5th of our raid forces numbers and refused to track anything continues to help you out moving forward. We treated you as equals, and let you have a fair shake on loot almost every single raid. You guys repaid us with disrespect and more or less backstabbed us when it mattered most, but I still consider many of you my friends. I only feel sorry for those of you without the guts to abandon the ones in your guild who've put you in the position to be unsuccessful.

As an outsider who thinks competition in a PvE game is stupid as hell, yet a minority of the population insists that it happens, I'm wondering why a merger with anyone was a necessity? What was wrong with 3 guilds competing when competition is what those three guilds claimed to want?

[Byrjun]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As an outsider who thinks competition in a PvE game is stupid as hell, yet a minority of the population insists that it happens, I'm wondering why a merger with anyone was a necessity? What was wrong with 3 guilds competing when competition is what those three guilds claimed to want?

FE has/had no leadership capable of competing in a class C environment. I do like a lot of FE members, but without leeching off IB or TMO leadership, they'd have to go to class R.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As an outsider who thinks competition in a PvE game is stupid as hell, yet a minority of the population insists that it happens, I'm wondering why a merger with anyone was a necessity? What was wrong with 3 guilds competing when competition is what those three guilds claimed to want?

That's a great question. Can a former FE member explain why 3 raid guilds wasn't possible?

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a great question. Can a former FE member explain why 3 raid guilds wasn't possible?

Any great competitor knows that they stand the greatest chance of success if they eliminate their greatest enemies, either by annihilation or by making those enemies their friends.

[Cyrano]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any great competitor knows that they stand the greatest chance of success if they eliminate their greatest enemies, either by annihilation or by making those enemies their friends.

Lol so now FE was full of "great competitors"?

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any great competitor knows that they stand the greatest chance of success if they eliminate their greatest enemies, either by annihilation or by making those enemies their friends.

Civ 5 Diplomacy victory.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Cyrano [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's a great question. Can a former FE member explain why 3 raid guilds wasn't possible?

It was already 2 raid guilds.