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View Poll Results: Is it time for a raise (exp bonus)?
Yes! 45 37.50%
no. 31 25.83%
Good bye Zade bonus exp instead 4 3.33%
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Old 03-29-2014, 03:16 AM
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I'm not sure that's quite right: normally inflation helps people with debts, and hurts debtors.
we no longer have a normal situation. We have the absurd situation of "creating" billions, but not getting these billions into circulation. All this money does right now is create more debt and interest.

I'd say a minimum wage of around $15 sounds reasonable for any sort of trained work, $12 for untrained work. Don't say we can't afford that, we easily can, we just choose to make more millionaires billionaires. Ask yourself, do you want a downward spiral on wages so your country can remain competitive on exports until the competing countries adjust their wages downward so they're competitive again or do you want a strong demand for your products at home.

I'll repeat what I said before, a job that pays so little, the employee is still entitled to welfare benefits, is an anti-social job (the employer has the entire society pay part of the wages) and it's anti free-market (the employer beats the competition that pays more than minimum wage and doesn't rely on society to pay for his employees). Therefore, for a true capitalist, these jobs are not worth preserving and if they're lost due to a higher minimum wage, nothing of value is lost.
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Old 03-29-2014, 07:43 AM
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Why xp bonus?

There's no sense in rushing into that great wall at the end game. It'll always be there.

We need xp penalty to make the fun of leveling last as long as possible.

And in a completely unrelated topic, I agree, Quineloe.
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Old 03-29-2014, 08:53 AM
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I'd say a minimum wage of around $15 sounds reasonable for any sort of trained work, $12 for untrained work. Don't say we can't afford that, we easily can, we just choose to make more millionaires billionaires. Ask yourself, do you want a downward spiral on wages so your country can remain competitive on exports until the competing countries adjust their wages downward so they're competitive again or do you want a strong demand for your products at home.

Good companies pay well, if your company doesn't, find another job.

Minimum wage is a massive flaw in western capitalism. It's no longer necessary, just like unions are no longer necessary.
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Old 03-29-2014, 09:15 AM
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They should take all the social program funding and give it to the working class. Want food stamps? Get a job and then we'll talk.
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Old 03-29-2014, 09:40 AM
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They should tax the rich 80% and give everyone a college education, internet and food
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Old 03-29-2014, 09:50 AM
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Good companies pay well, if your company doesn't, find another job.

Minimum wage is a massive flaw in western capitalism. It's no longer necessary, just like unions are no longer necessary.
I accept your blank statement without anything to back it up and am now shrugging it off

..... /shrug
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Old 03-29-2014, 10:25 AM
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Good companies pay well, if your company doesn't, find another job.

Minimum wage is a massive flaw in western capitalism. It's no longer necessary, just like unions are no longer necessary.
Without unions, slavery returns. They will always be necessary.
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:15 AM
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Two important pieces of information:
1) instead of asking for an xp bonus, ask for a level playing field by eliminating class penalties.
2) inflation, deflation, debt etc.: the reason that the dollar is the world currency standard isn't because of the value of each dollar, but because of the dollar's ability to keep a relatively stable value over time. It doesn't fluctuate the way others do. All those federal reserve scams, borrowing against future prosperity by selling bonds to banks who cash them in at the treasury, all leads to that singular outcome: the value of the dollar declines, but it does so steadily.
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:53 AM
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Without unions, slavery returns. They will always be necessary.
Unless that's a clever joke about the Union army, it may be the dumbest thing I've ever seen.
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Old 03-29-2014, 11:58 AM
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They should take all the social program funding and give it to the working class. Want food stamps? Get a job and then we'll talk.
But the working class might not vote the way they want. It's a lot easier to buy votes by making the working class pay for free stuff for non-workers.
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