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Old 03-01-2014, 11:38 PM
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EQ would have failed back in the day + none of us would be playing it now if all of the things the developers intended went live + none of the things they didn't intend went live.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:21 PM
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Thank you space bar for filling in the rest of the puzzle. Yes, I agree with what you say. And basically the solution for it all is self restraint, empathy, selflessness, and kindness. All of which is impossible on the intraweb. We will just have to sneak in to Kael spawns when they are raising! Muahahaha
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:33 PM
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As much pain as MQing seems to cause a portion of this community the fact is that not only did nilbog spend his valuable time making MQing work, is that MQing is classic. No reason to remove it. However, I don't think level 1's should be able to receive an epic from MQ's, add a level restrictment or something.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:46 PM
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As much pain as MQing seems to cause a portion of this community the fact is that not only did nilbog spend his valuable time making MQing work, is that MQing is classic. No reason to remove it. However, I don't think level 1's should be able to receive an epic from MQ's, add a level restrictment or something.
And I guess this is something I'm beginning to understand. That the purity of what Classic was is to be maintained above all else. I doubt it was intended. Anyone know if they got rid of mqing down the road when they figured it out? Either way, I don't have too strong of an opinion either way. But there does seem to be room for improvement and it also seems like there is room for discussion. Hence the forum post.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:35 PM
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I'm really not an asshole. But when people cry like this about stuff like this?

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Old 03-02-2014, 12:07 AM
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I'm really not an asshole. But when people cry like this about stuff like this?

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Brought to you by someone on the server top 20 rich list? Yeahhh.
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:14 AM
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Brought to you by someone on the server top 20 rich list? Yeahhh.
My first instinct was to go "what the hell Tecmos, why are you so gung ho about keeping jboots and epics out of the hands of everyone who doesn't want to buy them?" I thought about it and ultimately, he can solo everything in this goddamn game so I know he's not "one of those MQ guys" because he wouldn't need to be, so I'm guessing he really believes that back on live it was impossible to get your epic without buying it from TMO and no one ever got a pair of jboots who didn't pay for them


Which may be true! I was 15 at the time! My memory may be hazy!
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Old 03-02-2014, 12:18 AM
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Brought to you by someone on the server top 20 rich list? Yeahhh.
I wasn't always rich, and you definitely won't be able to find a quote of me complaining about someone else wanting to get rich themselves by, gasp, camping an item!
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:45 PM
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It wasn't THAT hard to figure out.

Remember the thread about emergent gameplay and how everyone agreed that it was what made EQ great and what makes modern MMOs bland? MQing is emergent gameplay, just like a shitload of other features the devs of EQ didn't intend but that popped up and are 110% vital to the game we know and love today, like kiting, AE groups, FD splitting, etc.

Droppable or no drop doesn't mean shit especially when MQing was implemented intentionally in classic, just like the devs saying they didn't intend AE groups doesn't mean shit especially when they intentionally left a cap off the number of targets PBAEs could affect.
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Old 03-01-2014, 11:48 PM
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It wasn't THAT hard to figure out.

Remember the thread about emergent gameplay and how everyone agreed that it was what made EQ great and what makes modern MMOs bland? MQing is emergent gameplay, just like a shitload of other features the devs of EQ didn't intend but that popped up and are 110% vital to the game we know and love today, like kiting, AE groups, FD splitting, etc.

Droppable or no drop doesn't mean shit especially when MQing was implemented intentionally in classic, just like the devs saying they didn't intend AE groups doesn't mean shit especially when they intentionally left a cap off the number of targets PBAEs could affect.
But is all emergent gameplay positive? People on pvp servers who just kill noobs probably effect server population. Would it be wrong to protect new players from constant grief?
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