Bards & AE in zones where players XP.

[Cookiefist]

I hate bards.

[reborn649]

Originally Posted by Tubben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the problem is that he a pulls half the zone letting no mobs to kill up

Just curious, but where is the other half of the zone. Instead of making the 7 millionth complaint about bards, why aren't u attacking and killing the other half not being pulled? Bards swarm kite, its a mechanic since classic live. From my understanding, bards have backed off plvling in heavily populated dungeons for the most part and have even started vanishing from dreadlands, burning woods, and are "less" of an annoyance in overthere. Tell ya what...you list other places that bards can swarm kite from 1-60 so they don't bother players and I will list 5x as many places for each set of levels you could go also. If you don't agree with whats happening in a zone, move on.

Disclaimer: Not mad, just annoyed between these type of posts and "what class should i play" posts lately haha..

[Tubben]

Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious, but where is the other half of the zone. Instead of making the 7 millionth complaint about bards, why aren't u attacking and killing the other half not being pulled? Bards swarm kite, its a mechanic since classic live. From my understanding, bards have backed off plvling in heavily populated dungeons for the most part and have even started vanishing from dreadlands, burning woods, and are "less" of an annoyance in overthere. Tell ya what...you list other places that bards can swarm kite from 1-60 so they don't bother players and I will list 5x as many places for each set of levels you could go also. If you don't agree with whats happening in a zone, move on.

Disclaimer: Not mad, just annoyed between these type of posts and "what class should i play" posts lately haha..

a.) The other half of the zone is green
b.) The mobs are green to the bard, he's 50+
c.) If there are 30 players 20-30, the bard should move to an different zone, and not the 20-30 players.

[reborn649]

Originally Posted by Tubben [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a.) The other half of the zone is green
b.) The mobs are green to the bard, he's 50+
c.) If there are 30 players 20-30, the bard should move to an different zone, and not the 20-30 players.

Yet you're the only one here complaining...

Whether the bard is lvl 60 or lvl 20...swarming is swarming at any lvl. Bards are gonna swarm and their options are limited unlike you. 20-30? Unrest, Mistmoore, Guk, Highkeep, Najena, Sol A, etc... You have a plethora of more options for nearly every lvl. If a bard wants to swarm kite, they have a pretty set path for a handful of zones to get to 60. These posts are pointless when you literally have countless options to level at from 1-60 and yet still complain because someone leveling a bard is just ruining your day when you can practically cross 1-2 zonelines and get the same XP in another zone.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet you're the only one here complaining...

Whether the bard is lvl 60 or lvl 20...swarming is swarming at any lvl. Bards are gonna swarm and their options are limited unlike you. 20-30? Unrest, Mistmoore, Guk, Highkeep, Najena, Sol A, etc... You have a plethora of more options for nearly every lvl. If a bard wants to swarm kite, they have a pretty set path for a handful of zones to get to 60. These posts are pointless when you literally have countless options to level at from 1-60 and yet still complain because someone leveling a bard is just ruining your day when you can practically cross 1-2 zonelines and get the same XP in another zone.

Your argument is stupid and invalid. I'm sorry, but telling someone about places a bard can swarm kite for xp, when mobs are green, is about the dumbest shit I have seen on forumquest lately, and I've been playing/forumquesting red99....

That has nothing to do with swarm leveling a bard, which is legit (and still stupid in a full capacity zone)

Get real.

[reborn649]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your argument is stupid and invalid. I'm sorry, but telling someone about places a bard can swarm kite for xp, when mobs are green, is about the dumbest shit I have seen on forumquest lately, and I've been playing/forumquesting red99....

That has nothing to do with swarm leveling a bard, which is legit (and still stupid in a full capacity zone)

Get real.

I don't know if its just me...but i literally didnt understand 80% of what you just tried to say...

Only thing i kind of gathered was something about swarm kiting stuff that is green? At least I think thats what you were trying to say? My point to this was whether a bard is lvl 1 or lvl 60, swarm kiting is a legit mechanic. There are not a lot of places they can swarm and there are TONS of places for people who cannot swarm to choose from. That's my only argument here. If you cant grasp that concept and you believe this to be the dumbest thing you have seen on forumquest in awhile, then you clearly need to l2understand simple concepts and forumquest more...

This is just my opinion on the subject after playing 3 bards from 1-60 and multiple other classes from 1-60, so I feel fairly confident I have a dog in the fight.

[odiecat99]

Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yet you're the only one here complaining...

Whether the bard is lvl 60 or lvl 20...swarming is swarming at any lvl. Bards are gonna swarm and their options are limited unlike you. 20-30? Unrest, Mistmoore, Guk, Highkeep, Najena, Sol A, etc... You have a plethora of more options for nearly every lvl. If a bard wants to swarm kite, they have a pretty set path for a handful of zones to get to 60. These posts are pointless when you literally have countless options to level at from 1-60 and yet still complain because someone leveling a bard is just ruining your day when you can practically cross 1-2 zonelines and get the same XP in another zone.

confirmed moran

[reborn649]

Originally Posted by odiecat99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

confirmed moran

Let me clarify this once more for the guy who is clearly to slow to understand common sense...

If a bard is ruining your day and you can simply go 1-2 zones away to get the same XP, why not do it? It's no different then going into a dungeon and calling out for a CC and finding out everything is camped and telling your group "Hey guys lets go check out "X" dungeon instead cuz this one is camped to hell and back". If the bard truly is taking 90% of the zone, ya I fully agree he/she is playing the role of a d-bag. Petition him/her if you feel the need and move on for the time being.

Originally Posted by stonez138 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reborn is an idiot. First he says he's sick of posts like this where people complain about bards and then he drops this gem

which one is it?

Intentionally taking/reading things out of context, and I am the idiot. D+ for effort at trolling.


Done with this failed thread for the time being. Clearly its a split decision on bards swarming judging by the various opinions. Can't wait for the next thread in a couple days! Someone go swarm LOIO or OT asap!

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious, but where is the other half of the zone. Instead of making the 7 millionth complaint about bards, why aren't u attacking and killing the other half not being pulled? Bards swarm kite, its a mechanic since classic live. From my understanding, bards have backed off plvling in heavily populated dungeons for the most part and have even started vanishing from dreadlands, burning woods, and are "less" of an annoyance in overthere. Tell ya what...you list other places that bards can swarm kite from 1-60 so they don't bother players and I will list 5x as many places for each set of levels you could go also. If you don't agree with whats happening in a zone, move on.

Disclaimer: Not mad, just annoyed between these type of posts and "what class should i play" posts lately haha..

What, you mean the half of the zone that is either too high level or too low level for someone to xp on?
Most outdoor zones do not have a uniform distribution of mob levels. Burning Words/Sky Fire are all I can think of off the top of my head where mob lvls are roughly the same throughout.

Getting into groups to gain your levels, or charm kiting a few at a time as a bard is also classic as shit and doesn't flip the middle finger to everyone else in that level range at that time.

[fishingme]

Originally Posted by reborn649 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just curious, but where is the other half of the zone. Instead of making the 7 millionth complaint about bards, why aren't u attacking and killing the other half not being pulled? Bards swarm kite, its a mechanic since classic live. From my understanding, bards have backed off plvling in heavily populated dungeons for the most part and have even started vanishing from dreadlands, burning woods, and are "less" of an annoyance in overthere. Tell ya what...you list other places that bards can swarm kite from 1-60 so they don't bother players and I will list 5x as many places for each set of levels you could go also. If you don't agree with whats happening in a zone, move on.

Disclaimer: Not mad, just annoyed between these type of posts and "what class should i play" posts lately haha..

there's a difference between swarm kiting and aoe kiting. Second, aoe kiting is not classic because no computer hardware back in 99-(whenever luclin came out) could handle it. When you died, you stayed dead.