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Old 02-16-2014, 02:19 PM
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Oh, and I agree with +/- 4 level range. Sounds classic.
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:28 PM
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Oh, and I agree with +/- 4 level range. Sounds classic.
I would be so happy if this goes, not only does it help the server gain pop but also shows who has skill
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:23 PM
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Why do half the suggestions for increasing the population involve banning people you have a grudge against or that annoy you? Stop thinking about how it benefits you, your guild or your clique, otherwise any suggestion you make is no better than a troll. And not a good one like Slathar's either.

Also, stop suggesting they allow boxing or wipe the server. Everyone who is seriously promoting either one is doing so for a selfish reason, despite how many layers of benevolence you try to hide it behind.
Figuring out a way to stop people from lying and using their IP Exemption to box their father's brother's spouse's character would do far more good. Not everyone can box even if it were allowed but everyone can play one account. If the cheaters boxing now is your reasoning, it's a self-defeating reason. You boxing does not even the playing field, because now they can box four characters and so on exponentially.

Suggesting the server be wiped is ignorant and incredibly selfish. The main reason given for wiping the server is Nihilum controlling raid targets they don't need in order to deny the loot to others and the general unfairness of the highend of the game.
What the people crying for a wipe don't seem to get is that getting their wish will take from others what was denied to them, but it makes you worse than the people you fucking hate.
You may be willing to lose everything to fuck over your enemies, but not everyone cares about who hurt your feelings and how unfair it was. You do not have the right to take from everyone what they put effort in to obtain just to put a bandaid on your pride.

A wipe is not justice, it's not karma and it's sure as hell not fair. It is selfish, vengeful and makes every single person (Friend, foe, family and stranger alike) into collateral damage so you can feel vindicated on the internet.
If you just delete your account and go away it works out the same for you without involving a single innocent bystander.

P.S. If you think I'm against it because I don't want to lose my toons/gear you are wrong. I would delete my accounts without hesitation if it would be good for the entire server and/or increase the population. I got over any sense of greed back on Live and my ego will never be affected by something that occurs in a game.
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:24 PM
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I'm for boxing because I believe it would allow smaller crews to flourish, open up the low level scene and increase the abundance of high level groups, and be a huge help in Velious on a low pop server where you REQUIRE double digit clerics for raid mobs. Shrug.
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I'm for boxing because I believe it would allow smaller crews to flourish, open up the low level scene and increase the abundance of high level groups, and be a huge help in Velious on a low pop server where you REQUIRE double digit clerics for raid mobs. Shrug.
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:28 PM
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I'm for boxing because I believe it would allow smaller crews to flourish, open up the low level scene and increase the abundance of high level groups, and be a huge help in Velious on a low pop server where you REQUIRE double digit clerics for raid mobs. Shrug.
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Old 02-16-2014, 03:23 PM
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I'm for boxing because I believe it would allow smaller crews to flourish, open up the low level scene and increase the abundance of high level groups, and be a huge help in Velious on a low pop server where you REQUIRE double digit clerics for raid mobs. Shrug.
Can you honestly say that the fact that it would greatly benefit you and especially your guild has no bearing on your choice? Do you really want this to help Azrael, Flowers of Happiness and Nihilum members get more groups and be more successful on raids?

What about the brand new player to EQ or those just new to Red? Would having twice the number of pvp threats from the same small population really make the server more inviting? And if the people soloing now to level can suddenly box their own healer, tank or dps how exactly is that going to make them want to group? With a box pets no longer steal 75% xp and dual-boxing will become the new soloing.

I like you HB, you have my respect for what you do, but I already know you're not objective. Last time you and I butted heads over boxing your reasoning was that it would help create groups and since so many IP Exempt people were abusing it to box they should just make dual-boxing legal.
I think the cheaters should all be suspended or banned based on the severity of the crime, because no one boxing is the only way everyone is inherently equal.

Within guilds boxing would be a huge benefit and I would probably argue its merits if I was an officer or leader of a guild, but 200 assholes boxing doesn't add 200 new people to the population, it's just cloning assholes until there are twice as many.

If this were Blue, aka PVE, where it is supposed to be all about grouping and raiding, I would be an advocate for boxing. For at least 16 hours a day, almost every day for the last 18 months people repeated "This is PVP!" while insulting and making fun of others for caring more about PVE than PVP.
Besides me, who on this server hasn't used "smurf" or "bluebie" as derogatory terms to insult either a person or their pvp skills? Yet now being able to group or raid pve targets is one of the primary reasons given for allowing boxing.

Does Sickpuppy boxing a healer with Mrbigs really benefit all the people who come rushing to play here because of boxing?

I am not trying to pick on you in particular HB, you're just one of the loudest proponents for boxing and yet hold a position that makes it virtually impossible for you to be objective or unbiased. I've been in exactly the same position as you and I know that emotions and objectivety DO NOT mix and you cannot be a good guild leader if you are not emotionally invested. To do your job you HAVE to have bias.

I really wish I could just convince you to focus your verbal efforts on getting something done about the people illegal boxing thanks to IP Exemptions being given to people getting them intentionally to box. We need more strict enforcement of the current rules, and definitely more consistent punishments, before we start changing up the rules.
Call me old fashioned but when it says "Boxing will result in a Perma-Ban" in a sticky topic, I believe the fuckers should be perma-banned. No more lifting suspensions and bans early, no more goddamn favortism for anyone.
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:41 PM
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exp bonus is nice but its gone 50+ and theres nothing but toxic neckbeards

highest I ever got was 3 blues in 55 and people just love to bind camp me and staff do nothing

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server will never be successful due to bad players and bad staff.

it will spike to 500 for a couple months for velious, but once people get bored of that will sink to 200 then 100 then die.

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Old 02-16-2014, 02:43 PM
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people probably wouldnt bind camp you if you didnt spew how bad the server is and other bullshit in ooc all day long
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Old 02-16-2014, 02:48 PM
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Feeling pretty eye for an eye atm, so:

lol red.
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