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Old 02-11-2014, 03:34 PM
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just calling it as i see it
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:37 PM
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:48 PM
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I just don't understand the infatuation with trying to steal players from blue. They could have rolled here at any point during an exp bonus week and been level 50 and chose not to. Face it they don't want to play on red. Having them come fuck around on the server isn't going to get anyone to stay and it's just going to make the server garbage for that week/month/whatever.

Just seems like the flavor of the month dum idea that will get beat into the ground over the next few weeks. Oh well, makes for interedasting forumquesting while at work. At least HB posted it this time instead of Stasis so we'll get some decent debate instead of the thing going up in flames within 10 minutes.
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:52 PM
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I just don't understand the infatuation with trying to steal players from blue. They could have rolled here at any point during an exp bonus week and been level 50 and chose not to. Face it they don't want to play on red. Having them come fuck around on the server isn't going to get anyone to stay and it's just going to make the server garbage for that week/month/whatever.

Just seems like the flavor of the month dum idea that will get beat into the ground over the next few weeks. Oh well, makes for interedasting forumquesting while at work. At least HB posted it this time instead of Stasis so we'll get some decent debate instead of the thing going up in flames within 10 minutes.
I think the initial hurdle of getting them to try Red is the biggest obstacle. I think players from Blue would like it if they tried it. "Stealing" players from blue would be beneficial for both servers. Blue is too overcrowded and Red needs more players.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:08 PM
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I think the initial hurdle of getting them to try Red is the biggest obstacle. I think players from Blue would like it if they tried it. "Stealing" players from blue would be beneficial for both servers. Blue is too overcrowded and Red needs more players.
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:55 PM
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600-700 good population for an emu box. They'll just make another blue server.

PVP holds no appeal to the vast majority of EQ players, that has been proven repeatedly throughout EQ history.

If you want to increase population direct your efforts at the correct target demographics like people playing on DAoC and UO emus, not people on P99 blue.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:01 PM
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600-700 good population for an emu box. They'll just make another blue server.

PVP holds no appeal to the vast majority of EQ players, that has been proven repeatedly throughout EQ history.

If you want to increase population direct your efforts at the correct target demographics like people playing on DAoC and UO emus, not people on P99 blue.
It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them.
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Drag them here one way or another and I think a lot will stay. I agree that it doesn't appeal to the average MMO player from the get go but they don't give it a shot.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:07 PM
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It's really hard to design products by focus groups. A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them.
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Drag them here one way or another and I think a lot will stay. I agree that it doesn't appeal to the average MMO player from the get go but they don't give it a shot.
People have had 14+ years to try EQ PVP and if they still haven't it isn't for them. The product is way past design phase.

All that would be accomplished by allowing any sort of blue to red transfers is a bunch of red players with characters on blue would use it to mule their shit and/or characters over.

Every one of the ideas you've said will dramatically increase population that have actually gone into effect have had the same net effect: jack and shit. A temporarily false boost as old people come back to check it out, see nothing is really different and off they go again waiting for winter.
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Old 02-11-2014, 04:16 PM
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People have had 14+ years to try EQ PVP and if they still haven't it isn't for them. The product is way past design phase.

All that would be accomplished by allowing any sort of blue to red transfers is a bunch of red players with characters on blue would use it to mule their shit and/or characters over.

Every one of the ideas you've said will dramatically increase population that have actually gone into effect have had the same net effect: jack and shit. A temporarily false boost as old people come back to check it out, see nothing is really different and off they go again waiting for winter.
This server has been pushing out ideas since the population was 30 and it has climbed to its current numbers.

-Taking out exp penalty on PvP death
-Yellow Text
-Exp bonus
-Global /ooc
-Begging for resists which have been worked on a little but most importantly got Alecta appointed to address it sooner or later


I get 100% of the community aren't all for all of these changes but they have gone in and the net effect has been +population.

Those are some of the changes that have gone in that people proposed on these forums much like the proposal to allow transfers/copies to this server. You joined the server in October of 2013, so you haven't even been around for a real change on the server yet besides this simulated repop that hasn't even happened yet.

Why do you even waste everyone's time having an opinion and filling up space between meaningful posts on this subject when you have no valid input?
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Old 02-11-2014, 03:56 PM
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Biggest problem right now is that raid mobs are spawning in the early morning hours of EST.

Not sure if anyone knows this or not, but most of the population is working or not available on weekday morning hours. Shocker.
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