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Old 09-01-2010, 10:23 AM
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Qaed if you posted this prior to reading my post above yours then sir great minds think alike.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:25 AM
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:45 PM
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:52 PM
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As for the violent biblical references, they are not the same as the Koran has. The violence of the old testament was done at a specific time and that context is over now. The gospel doesn't instruct Christians to be violent in the present tense. The Koran does. That's why there are entire countries of Muslims that believe and hope for demise of non Muslim states.
To say that there are entire countries that believe and hope for the demise of others is an absurd generalization, you do realize that don't you?


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Let me know the next time a Christian cuts a mans head off on camera while praying and chanting and puts it o. YouTube. It is not comparable with anything in the Christian faith.
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:55 PM
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[QUOTE=Enderenter;132218]To say that there are entire countries that believe and hope for the demise of others is an absurd generalization, you do realize that don't you?

I didn't say every person in the country. But there are entire states (Iran for example) that are Muslim Theocracies that have called for destruction on non-muslim states.

Give me a modern example of a Christian theocracy that is doing this.
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Old 09-01-2010, 05:56 PM
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To say that there are entire countries that believe and hope for the demise of others is an absurd generalization, you do realize that don't you?

I didn't say every person in the country. But there are entire states (Iran for example) that are Muslim Theocracies that have called for destruction on non-muslim states.

Give me a modern example of a Christian theocracy that is doing this.
No sorry i cannot provide you an example of the shit you make up.

read a fucking book, for goodness sake.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:02 PM
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I didn't say every person in the country. But there are entire states (Iran for example) that are Muslim Theocracies that have called for destruction on non-muslim states.
The problem with your line of reasoning is that you are associating the people (Muslims) in the state of Iran with the government of the state of Iran. Just because a government is horrible does not make the people who are trapped under it horrible. There is no doubt in my mind that the vast majority of the Iranian people are hoping for the demise of their government.

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Give me a modern example of a Christian theocracy that is doing this.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:03 PM
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To say that there are entire countries that believe and hope for the demise of others is an absurd generalization, you do realize that don't you?




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Once again, the point is that it isn't a symmetrical counter example. Are you seriously going to compare a small splinter group in Uganda that is tied up in all kinds of other political issues to the Islamic countries that have state wide policies of violent islam?

You miss the point completely by hunting for examples of Christians who do bad things. The scale of the violence between Christians and Muslims is not balanced.

The largest Christian countries in the world are not executing policies of religious hatred. The largest Muslim countries in the world do.

I'd like to be able to say that I'm just as afraid of visiting England or Italy as I am Iran or Afghanistan...the problem is it just isn't so.

Most American Muslims that I know are desperate to divorce themselves from being identified with the type of Islam that rules the middle east.
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Old 09-01-2010, 06:15 PM
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Once again, the point is that it isn't a symmetrical counter example. Are you seriously going to compare a small splinter group in Uganda that is tied up in all kinds of other political issues to the Islamic countries that have state wide policies of violent islam?
A small splinter group yes. Why don't you compare the estimated number of people in the LRA with the estimated number of people in Al-Qaeda?

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You miss the point completely by hunting for examples of Christians who do bad things. The scale of the violence between Christians and Muslims is not balanced.
You're right. Far more people have been killed in history by Christians than by Muslims.

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The largest Christian countries in the world are not executing policies of religious hatred. The largest Muslim countries in the world do.
Once again, you are associating dictatorial governments with citizens of those governments. Not everywhere in the world is it as easy to leave a country as it is in America. Many people do not have such freedoms.


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Most American Muslims that I know are desperate to divorce themselves from being identified with the type of Islam that rules the middle east.
I truly believe if you met the average Middle-eastern Muslim your opinion of Islam would be drastically altered.
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Old 09-01-2010, 10:26 AM
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I just went straight to the end of the thread and posted. ;D I figured at least 3 of the pages would be filled with angry bigots trying to justify their narrow-mindedness by propping up lazy arguments that weakly attempt to disguise abridgements of the constitution.

For example: "I'm not against their constitutional right, I just think they're doing it for the wrong reasons."

So I decided to skip all of those, pass go and collect $200 right away.
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