Doljon Trains Hate, attempts to KS an already FTE'd Maestro

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yall a troll guild.

Suddenly I'm interested.

[Strifer]

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[joppykid]

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[mattkwi]

Amongst all the R class bitching about Dolji needing to be suspended and rules needing to be changed because they don't like them.

Technically, per the rules, A-Team could also not engage Maestro as they were in the zone when he popped. Player rotations don't override that rule. Agreed Dolji sucks. But Dolji should ride that to the bank.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by mattkwi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Amongst all the R class bitching about Dolji needing to be suspended and rules needing to be changed because they don't like them.

Technically, per the rules, A-Team could also not engage Maestro as they were in the zone when he popped. Player rotations don't override that rule. Agreed Dolji sucks. But Dolji should ride that to the bank.

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Confirm or Deny, A-Team was in Hate when Maestro Popped.

[CodyF86]

Originally Posted by Mezzmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Confirm or Deny, A-Team was in Hate when Maestro Popped.

I was in hate when he popped looking at the organ; there were 3 people in hate
when he popped.

They can even check the logs if they like. =)

Aaradin <The A-Team>
Jettli <dolj>
Tankzor <Dolj>

Aaradin
Aaradone
The A-Team

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Mezzmur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Splorf222222222222

Confirm or Deny, A-Team was in Hate when Maestro Popped.

There was a giant clusterfuck of 40 Doljon Mustards and A-Team on the wizard spires

[mattkwi]

Also R guilds need to realize THIS IS THE REASON Rogean and Sirken are not responding to your requests to change the rules: It's already covered. Learn to get along like classy C class guilds.

Play Nice Policy

Intentional training will be severely disciplined.
Guilds are encouraged to work out disputes among themselves before involving the staff.
All raid mobs provide an "FTE Shout" that show what guild has engaged. Kill stealing will be severely disciplined.
Guilds may not have any more than two representatives present at a raid spawn location.
To encourage competitive racing, guilds may not camp players out in the vicinity of raid targets.
Invulnerability spells used on engagement may only be for mechanic strategies, and may not be used to stall engagement.

WTG FEIBTMO

[Uteunayr]

If the GMs would like players to resolve these issues amongst themselves, and this is their way to do it, they need to rethink their strategy. When BDA was suspended for a rule violation, while I was part of those suspended, I nodded and went "Yup, that's deserved.", because it fucking was. What happened was a clear violation of the rules. That type of enforcement should still be here.

Bring the rage, bring the fury. Suspend guilds infractions like this, make it so that going to GMs is such a costly move to all involved. Why? Because that means players will believe their best course of action to avoid frequent applications of suspensions is to handle shit amongst themselves, and to deal with each other in a more reasonable way. Only when settling matters between each other is a less costly action than going to a GM, will you see this type of stuff while a group that strives for a class C style is in class R. Nothing has changed from before these rules if they are not rigidly, and freely enforced. What is the worst that happens, a small fraction of the small fraction of high end raiders quit? A portion of the loudest, most angry, nasty, shitty people leave the server? Good, fuck 'em.

The main reason why this type of shit happens is lax discipline like this. There is a clear violation of a very clear and well known rule. Dish out a suspension like you did for BDA. Continue to throw out suspensions to anyone that violates rules. Make it so that people who violate rules and fuck with other guilds, both guilds have a better chance with a positive result by talking to each other and being reasonable, than going to a GM.

Seriously, the discipline in this server is so damn lax. There's no consistency in delivering of punishments, it is no wonder people are in such disarray on such a lax server. You don't answer to the guilds, so if you see something, as Rogean did with BDA, fucking suspend them. Instill fear and make people realize this type of bullshit doesn't fly, and I assure you, people will think twice before KSing, and will think a third time before getting GMs involved.