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09-01-2010, 10:04 PM
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YO, so I was there in WI for both CT fights where divinity kicked our sorry ass, aight. And ya'll spreading lies doesn't help the server. That second CT was the night I decided I was done w/ WI, because our leadership that night was the epitome of suck, even worse than the weeks prior. But for the lies:
1. RE: standoffs at temple. When it got down to ~20 mobs in zone, both us AND divinity (from my observations) had a policy of medding to full, letting the other guild do the pulls if they were doing them, and otherwise taking singles. I am a monk. I know what I'm talking about. I pulled temple. I pulled past div sitting there watching. I also pulled past div pulling. I also sat and watched on Bum's orders while div pulled. Goes both ways, Cannibus and Auena. And you know that shit. You were there too. 2. RE: death touch cycles. Yes, the 2nd CT, ~80% of the DT cycles were non-WI. We also didn't pull golems that night. Things were very different the first time when we pulled golems, and there wasn't nearly as much bitching in vent about DT cycles. Important to note that no proof was ever given in vent as to who started which DT cycles, whether trans, or div, or as div says: some mysterious trainer (I'm picturing like Twopair here, IDK though). It was an urban legend in vent told mostly by Bumamgar, and several of ya'll drank the kool-aid. Like to also point out, the DT-cycle rage didn't get REAL loud until we actually lost on the strategy part of the competition. Which is what CT is now... a competition. The conversation AFTER the second CT loss in vent was something VERY like: "well rogean finally responded to my comment about their starting the DT cycles with a sad face, but he's not going to do anything about it." - Bum "They griefed us all night, that's such bullshit, there should be an addendum to the raid rules. We had several members log because of it, or else we would have gotten CT." - Bum "Dude, none of that matters. On the important part, we just lost." - me "RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGE" - Bum, Gab, Aue, others 3. Leapfrogging - Bullshit. Bullshit bullshit bullshit. Yes, both CTs, divinity showed up 15 minutes after we did or so. So what? Situation reversed, you're saying you would have said "oh, no, they zoned into fear and have cleared 10 mobs already, we're not going in." Bullshit. Sooooooo hypocritical. It's the game. It's competition. It's the new raid rules. A div member pointed out that we leapfrogged them later at naggy, since they were closer to/buffing up when we logged on (having just done FGs), and I'm not sure if the div member was pissed (if he was then lol on him, but I think more likely he was just making the point of how hypocritical it is), but that's essentially the same amount of leapfrogging. the 15 FGs vs. the 10-20 mobs we cleared in fear both times before they entered the zone. While I'm on that second CT night, I just want to post also a repeated convo I had with Bum in vent - "Right now, just get rezzed, get buffed up, focus on that, we'll worry about CT when there's one or two mobs in the zone." - Bum "Dude, don't you think we should pull when there're more mobs, we wiped w/ 6 last time w/ no enches and bad positioning on our first shot. And div cleared w/ 4 still up. They're not gonna wait for 1 or 2 mobs and then let us pull over and above that." "RIIIIIIGHT NOW, just do that. Don't worry about it." No plan at all. Honestly, really happy you're taking your drill-sergeant, no imagination, dream-world failure leadership elsewhere. That doesn't go for Spirell, just Bum and Aue. It's a really dick thing to say, but I hope it makes you think twice about taking good advice/thinking in advance/being creative, maybe you'll enjoy the game more for it when you see some success instead of just "___ wishes to cast Resurrection upon you."
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09-02-2010, 02:20 AM
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I would apply for GC, disband and apply again before joining IB.
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09-02-2010, 04:52 AM
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Bronson, you are basically the biggest joke of the rants and flames forums. DA/FB was/is probably the absolute worst thing to hit p99. Its so funny to listen to this clown actually hack on another guild after the embarassment you guys pulled trying to do sky. Its funny how one by one all the DA members who can see through your retard propaganda are making their way far away from you. GC was skilled and raided clean. GC had a respectable raid force of 20-30 peeps. About 10-15 of them raid in other well respected guilds. Others quit, or play alts. Every guild will wipe from time to time on a raid, even the mighty IB. I remember DA having to camp a cleric out on nw and wiping your raid just to get into fear, at least until you guys got your full zerg on. Funny how when your most skilled puller left for greener pastures your raids turned into complete shit shows. There is shame in poopsocking, and IB took no pride in it. IB does stuff the right way, and thats why people like me hang there. DA prefers the shady way, and thats why bullshit artists like you chill there. It's so fn hilarious to listen to your ex members talk about how shitty DA is now compared to IB. It really is music to my ears. Cause the funny thing is, there was a time when DA could give IB a run for its money. But, you guys blew it, you and your band of FB loudmouth bullshit artists.
G13, just play the game and stay off the forums, I know you get bored poopsocking, and you like to come here and make up lies to make yourself feel better. But, it just makes you look dumb. These people are right, it doesnt take skill to poopsock, so why try to act like DA is still hot shit? Now the rest of the server gets to know how fn "pro" you guys are! It's sad too cause all the apps leaving your guild for mine are fn kool guys who know their shit, but got fn fed up with people like you. So thank you for running away your honorable players, and have a fun poopsock. | ||
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09-02-2010, 06:19 AM
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I actually respect Abacab more than anyone on this server at the present time. He gets it. As far as guilds "doing things the right way or the wrong way" it doesn't really matter according to many people on the server. A kill is a kill if I'm not mistaken. That's what I've been told anyways. The fact of the matter is the actual classic content is a joke. Especially on this server where the EMU mechanics trivialize a lot of encounters. Apparently the "right way" is to wait for the mob to spawn and then "ready, set, go" to go get your kill or it's "poopsocking" or something. That's why Divinity was zoning into Sol B the other day in 2's and 3's, having their clerics and shammies buff em up, and then logging out at the ledge. Apparently it's not considered poopsocking if you're actually logged out, buffed up, waiting for the batphone or something. I's all a charade and it's freaking absurd. It's pure comedy. The end game has become extremely boring in the last few months. Things need to be shaken up and made exciting again. I thought Sky might fix that, but I was wrong. When I actually was in DA, which was a long time ago, I could cite many examples where DA beat IB fair and square. We out mobilized them. We were thinking ahead, planning, and executing accordingly. Now I understand people in IB have an image to uphold, so I don't begrudge any flames that come my way from them personally, but they know the truth. At least their officers do. Does it really matter? Not really. As an example I was FD in hate. I watched IB pull mobs, a few get feared, and then train back about 8 mobs to their AFK camp, wiping them. I mobilized DA to get 15 up there when they weren't prepared within 5 minutes. We beat them fair and square and guess what. IB petitioned to a GM. Lied and said I trained them when I did nothing of the sort, and got the guild booted from the entire zone. I refused to roll for the spawn because I don't roll for shit that was rightfully mine. Period. Another example was Vox. We got trained. IB got claim. No problemo. IB wiped on Vox even bindrushed her, and DA rolled in there and handled business. You people who QQ about poopsocking have no clue what it was really all about. You just follow orders and are a body pushing buttons for your raid leader. None of you who complain about poopsocking have any clue what actually went on during that time. Every time a mob spawned you had to be ready. You had to clear within a specific time. You had to execute under pressure. Most of this time this was from 2-5 in the morning. No other guilds except DA or IB were mustering and killing shit like that. None. Now you can hate on DA all you want, but when I was in that guild we had a tight crew that handled business under pressure. Most of those people are gone now. It remains to be seen if DA will adjust. I wish them nothing but the best, and I hope they have FUN playing this GAME. Now I will admit that the camp situation deteriorated into a lazy camp where bodies become more important than skill in some respects, but that was after my time. When sky was released, IB had a lot of their old crew come back. DA had hardly any come back and they paid the price. Good for IB. That's the way these things play out. I don't have any ill will towards you, IB, DA, Divinity, Trans. not anybody, but all these guilds that rolled over to IB suddenly pretending that DA caused all the problems are either smoking crack, or delusional. DA didn't write the raid rules either. Whoever wrote them stated 15 in zone = claim. No FB was at that meeting when the guilds all got together and tried to hammer out rules. The logical and intelligent thing to do was to have 15 in zone first, regardless if the mob was up or not. That's the way the rules were written. It burned a lot of people out. Even myself. I don't blame a single guild though for that happening. Equal blame can be lain at the feet of the entire server. No other guild tried to shake things up. IB was perfectly willing to get their socks out and take a dump in them too. What the real issue was and always has been is EGO. IB can't stand any other guild killing a mob on this server. If sky wasn't released right now, all you people gloating over your dragon kills would be getting your shit pushed in by IB. Be glad they released sky to keep them busy for awhile. The same thing with DA. FB people were really pissed off at lot of shit IB put them though. They were willing to do whatever it took to kill a mob. You have to remember, before DA, nobody killed jack shit on P99 except IB. Nobody. You people seem to forget what IB is really like because they aren't pissing in your sandbox right now. They are ruthless and play to crush. A pure grief guild. And you know, good for them. If that's the way they want to roll. Fuck it, but don't act like they are angels with halos. Alawen laid it out not a few days ago, and he was holding a ton of shit back. Stop pretending IB is this family friendly guild that gives the P99 server a big hug. They are a ruthless guild that will fuck you out of a painbringer if it meant they got loot and you didn't. That's just the way they are. It is what it is. Quote:
Now I understand that makes you really mad. I understand it makes you blame DA or something. I understand it makes you hate me. I think that's very entertaining. This is what RnF is all about. This place had died until I decided to make things interesting again, since in game it has become a snoozefest. The only sad thing is that me poking fun at IB's ego in a good natured sarcastic way hit a little too close to home with some people apparently. I'll leave it at that. Quote:
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09-02-2010, 01:14 PM
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Since Bronson stepped out for a post, guess I can too.
This poopsock business is killing high-end players. It's killing DA, (why do you think IB is gaining back old members and DA isn't?), it's causing entire guilds to go back to live (hello, WI), and it's causing huge divides in other raiding guilds. You can argue that there were other reasons WI left, but ultimately, it's competition, and how you have to play it in the end game. The balance won't last forever. there's not an endless supply of 50's to replace what's being lost at high end. Even IB played square before they adopted socking. They couldn't refuse to do it like other guilds, because they're ultimately concerned about loot. Given a choice though, between "do you,or do you not sock", IB won't. Screw the attacks on DA from now on, there won't be any more from me. All I'm asking is you guys is to play a different way. Risk losing the loot in favor of a server that feels there can be real competition. I won't make this a last post without a final word. I'm not Divinity, but once was, a long time ago. I still have close friends in that guild. In terms of playing honestly, and fairly, there's not a guild on the server that can touch them. They've been forced to do things like log at the ledge, but at least they didn't come up and sit next to DA. They wanted to try to beat them if they weren't ready, and that was the only way to do it. ~ | ||
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09-02-2010, 02:59 PM
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09-02-2010, 03:01 PM
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09-02-2010, 04:14 PM
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