Drama Spotlight: Quiet and the Windstriker Bow

[Kaahbal]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a nobody from 4 years ago

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[heartbrand]

I'm glad everyone is so concerned about our loot system. We had an internal vote and the members overwhelming love the system, albeit with a couple of tweaks. And why wouldn't they? It allows people who raid and don't have anything tangible they need to get, trade their time and effort for real upgrades such as a fungi or a recently upgraded raid item without needing 70k pp to do so. Those who put in time to raid get upgrades they need, those who can't raid as much will have incentive to assist the guild and be part of it by trading their time (farming pixels) for other people's time ( raiding). It's the free market at its best working beautifully.

All this stuff about people farming seb is fraudulent. No one is allowed to monopolize camps in red dawn, and all groups are guild charter enforced need before greed. What has happened is people have upgraded items such as their RBB to 41% haste , and rather than putting that RBB on a twink or selling it for pp, they are instead putting it back into the guild for dkp. Everyone wins. The people who benefit the most are those who raid the most because they are able to get real needed upgrades from others, making the force stronger as a whole.

Sure we can all pretend people will do this stuff for free, just like tehruoh gave his cof to the guild when he got his haste or ordaga did (oh wait they didnt) or all of those free fungis passed out in nihilum (wait wut?) what does your dkp get you in nihilum? Nada. Zilch. It's officer loot. Once your geared your dkp is effectively worthless. In red dawn, you can use that dkp to still get items you want from other members. It incentivizes those who have what they need to keep raiding.

There's a couple of tweaks needed with some item caps and what not, but in general it's a great system which is why the members have overwhelming supported it. Thanks for your concern all!

[mcappy]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm glad everyone is so concerned about our loot system. We had an internal vote and the members overwhelming love the system, albeit with a couple of tweaks. And why wouldn't they? It allows people who raid and don't have anything tangible they need to get, trade their time and effort for real upgrades such as a fungi or a recently upgraded raid item without needing 70k pp to do so. Those who put in time to raid get upgrades they need, those who can't raid as much will have incentive to assist the guild and be part of it by trading their time (farming pixels) for other people's time ( raiding). It's the free market at its best working beautifully.

All this stuff about people farming seb is fraudulent. No one is allowed to monopolize camps in red dawn, and all groups are guild charter enforced need before greed. What has happened is people have upgraded items such as their RBB to 41% haste , and rather than putting that RBB on a twink or selling it for pp, they are instead putting it back into the guild for dkp. Everyone wins. The people who benefit the most are those who raid the most because they are able to get real needed upgrades from others, making the force stronger as a whole.

Sure we can all pretend people will do this stuff for free, just like tehruoh gave his cof to the guild when he got his haste or ordaga did (oh wait they didnt) or all of those free fungis passed out in nihilum (wait wut?) what does your dkp get you in nihilum? Nada. Zilch. It's officer loot. Once your geared your dkp is effectively worthless. In red dawn, you can use that dkp to still get items you want from other members. It incentivizes those who have what they need to keep raiding.

There's a couple of tweaks needed with some item caps and what not, but in general it's a great system which is why the members have overwhelming supported it. Thanks for your concern all!

I'm unguilded and poorly geared, it only makes sense to be concerned about your loot system. I have two real choices if I ever want to raid. I'm not driven by loot, but that doesn't mean I want to be in rags forever.

Rather than go into a long rant about how that system is stacked against new members (more specifically, newer players on the server), I'll just say that your wall of text there made my decision a lot easier.

[Rhuobhe]

Originally Posted by mcappy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rather than go into a long rant about how that system is stacked against new members (more specifically, newer players on the server), I'll just say that your wall of text there made my decision a lot easier.

<-- Newer player. BENEFITING

[Rellapse36]

Sounds like Nilly is just jealous of a better loot system.

[Feniggles]

Originally Posted by Rellapse36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like Nilly is just jealous of a better loot system.

i'm apping as soon as i get epic.

[heartbrand]

And to add, there was one small issue we saw, someone farming rather than raiding, which was easily closed by forbidding the sale of all loot from those who farm during raids. All deals have to be posted on our public forums and approved to make sure it's legit. Everything is in the open. It's the free market working beautifully. 1 dkp is already worth about 1000pp.

[Nirgon]

60 warriors, clerics and enchanters helping the guild and getting a benefit in exchange.

Personally, I'd rather award a drop to the 60 warrior who makes 80% of raids and spend 30 hours a week tanking for guild xp groups than the warrior who only makes 100% of raids but never logs on otherwise.

[Kaahbal]

Red Dawns system makes sense. Nihilums is more an activity tracker. Waste of Thrillas time.

[Snufz]

Free market good, keeps better droppables in guild rather then Gyno onioning up everything.