Class C loses mobs on every repop?

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by Erati [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

right putting solutions out here in Server chat for trolls to feed on is not how you gain any traction on changing the raid scene

I would ( after the next repop or so) get your guild leaders who can post in those forums write something up and Rogean and co will look at it more closely

Yea we have had discussions about it. I hope something is being done behind the scenes but I don't know for sure. Didn't think it would hurt to get everyone else's take on it.

There have been surprisingly few trolls thus far, but I did think a GM would respond on day 1.

[falkun]

You still haven't shown how C guilds "lose mobs every repop". Sure, you can target FFA targets over C targets, but you still get your guaranteed 4 (C) + 6 (VP) mobs. Your C mobs are not touched unless you gorge on FFA mobs, but then you just trade one mob for another, which you actively choose to do.

The bag limit, and its consequences, are intentional.

[baramur]

So your not considering vp is c class exclusive because that is currently the only guilds that can even down those mobs. They worked to get keys, thus putting in the time to allow them to kill in vp. You could make vp an r rotation and the end result would be the mobs would go to ffa status. It is more a reward for those that keyed themselves to raid, allowing c class mo s to be killed by r class, because c class guild is capped at two defeats the whole premise of equal chance between r class and c class. This inheritently gives r class guilds more then the 1/1/1 rotation.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You still haven't shown how C guilds "lose mobs every repop". Sure, you can target FFA targets over C targets, but you still get your guaranteed 4 (C) + 6 (VP) mobs. Your C mobs are not touched unless you gorge on FFA mobs, but then you just trade one mob for another, which you actively choose to do.

The bag limit, and its consequences, are intentional.

Okay I'll show right now how class C can lose mobs every repop, even though I've done this already in this same thread. What if for one repop there are 7 Class C mobs, then class C loses one. What if for one repop, we have 5 class C mobs and FE/IB chooses to raid together. Then Class C loses one. Both of these are extreme examples, but they assume that we don't go for any FFA mobs at all, and we should be able to. Had there not been a repop, and these mobs spawned normally we would surely be able to contest them. Repops only hurt us with regards to the rotation.

[Pheer]

You guys are trying really hard to get this moved into RnF

[LizardNecro]

Hitpoint, I haven't heard an answer to why class C guilds can't split into smaller, more competitive guilds. This would let class C as a whole get all FFA mobs (assuming superior mobilization) and all class C mobs (by default). You'd get the 66% of mobs.

[Hitpoint]

Originally Posted by LizardNecro [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hitpoint, I haven't heard an answer to why class C guilds can't split into smaller, more competitive guilds. This would let class C as a whole get all FFA mobs (assuming superior mobilization) and all class C mobs (by default). You'd get the 66% of mobs.

Because that would be awful. What if I was to tell you that in order for you to get your mobs on a rotation, you had to split up your guild? As in, remove half of your guild so that they can make another one. That's absurd. Not to mention the fact that we're basically already doing that with FE/IB. And yes 66% should be possible under the current system.

Metallikus, grats on being the first person ever added to my ignore list. I've done this because you are a disgusting, hateful troll. And I've never seen you post anything even remotely intelligent. I encourage anyone to check his post history for some good entertainment.

[Tycko]

It is amusing guilds screaming competition the entire time share vp mobs on pop.

[Pheer]

Originally Posted by Tycko [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is amusing guilds screaming competition the entire time share vp mobs on pop.

I know everyone is salty that FE/IB and TMO didnt get eachother suspended immediately but its not that hard to understand why it was done that way

Desync issues + the high probability of training eachother unintentionally made it the best option for a full repop situation imo

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Pheer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I know everyone is salty that FE/IB and TMO didnt get eachother suspended immediately but its not that hard to understand why it was done that way

Desync issues + the high probability of training eachother unintentionally made it the best option for a full repop situation imo

We're watching. After what was said by the more competitive guilds during the raid rules discussions, we better see EXTREME CUTTHROAT COMPETITION next time. Just the way you guys want, remember?