proposed change to guild v guild PNP

[Tune]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think the only deal elderan speaks of is when nizzar told lawlzies we could have nagafen / vox / ragefire if we didn't ally with azrael. They then proceeded to kill us at ragefire without a single tell sent because "they meant only Sunday ragefire" and that we broke the deal by having multiple azrael members guilded despite every single person he mentioned being not actually guilded. He then stopped communicating with lawlzies. When I confronted elderan he said "we are not in a position to negotiate". Oh well, we took them anyway [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

our word against yours pretty much

if u dont want to negotiate thats fine

lets atleast get these mass pvp rules hammered out

[Colgate]

the rules were pretty clearly defined

you chose to ignore them and that's why you're banned

banned

8)

[Smedy]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the rules were pretty clearly defined

you chose to ignore them and that's why you're banned

banned

8)

oh colgate, sometimes you crack me up sir

[Taboo]

One word, pride. I can see it may be hard for a guild that has been winning so long to actually admit they lost a raid zone. Especially when you can just log in your 5 alts and throw bodies till you claim you won. Warrior coined? Log the bard. Bard coined? Log the cleric...etc.
I do not really know if that is actually what is happening but I have been playing eq long enough to know that it is viable.

Kudos to the OP. This is the best solution we have seen in awhile.

[chu]

Originally Posted by Taboo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I do not really know if that is actually what is happening

by all means, post your opinion of the situation anyway. being clueless never stops anybody else

[Taboo]

Well I know that is happening if that makes ya feel better. Was trying to be polite. As a member of the community here for quite awhile and this not being RNF I thought I had a right to speak my opinion.

I mean we all let you speak when you talk about things outside of guk so whats the difference? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[chu]

as such a longtime member of the community you probably already know that im also an expert of the ruins of old paineel nameen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[RoguePhantom]

I would like to add or enhance this idea.

Once LNS is called, your Guild is allowed to enter, Loot and Scoot, but once the last member is out, you are NOT allowed back for 1 hour. (For Raid zones with a raid target up)

So the timer starts when the last person is Scooted. Gives reason to Mass PvP, and takes away the Spy/Scout/Alt parade that usually happens with current Policy.

[Tune]

what happens when the winning guild dies while the losing guild is still scooting

do they get to fight the winners or are the winners protected for 1 hr

[Etorryn]

Always hated the rules and I have said it numerous times. Scrap all LnS and PnP rules is my Guild v. Guild solution.

You want to rez people in? Fine with me. Want to run back across 5 zones naked, and loot your corpse and keep fighting? Yet again fine with it. I'm ok with the old rules. Bind rushing and training should be bannable offenses.

How often are big Guild vs Guild battles won because the clerics got all their melees rezzed back in time to sway the tide back? None that I have been a part of and I have been at almost every big PvP battle nilly has lost.