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01-10-2014, 02:58 PM
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Training is against server rules. If you train, you will be suspended. If your guild trains, your guild will be raid suspended. It's not an inevitability that unending trains occur. Make the penalty for training harsh enough, and guilds won't train. They'll find a way to clear in safely or they'll CoH. I understand that GMs don't want to have to play police force on every single engage. That's why it's important that the penalty for training be severe enough. With a two-week raid suspension for any train that affects another guild's ability to engage, GMs aren't going to have to be ultra-vigilant. Guilds are going to be incentivized to take their own precautions against idiot members training and ruining the guild's ability to raid for half a month. If server staff really wants to get proactive, they can even create a system of penalties for false accusations and inconclusive fraps. That way they're only sifting through legitimate accusations, and if they do find an actual train, the hammer comes down hard enough to actually make guilds care. As for leapfrogging, who cares? That's not a problem. Leapfrogging is classic EQ. If your guild is stupid enough to sit still and kill 3 mobs at a time while a full raid force follows behind you and grabs the last couple Juggs + Trak, then you don't deserve the first engage. The implications of this are obvious. Guilds will be incentivized to bite off the very maximum that they can chew. As soon as you think you can handle the adds plus the raid mob, you're going for it. This will lead to non-trivial encounters where 35 best-in-slot, fully raid buffed, extremely experienced raiders actually wipe on occasion. And five minutes of intense CoHing is classic, too. If that's the route you want to go, you better be organized and you better engage as soon as you think you're able, because you're not going to have a huge time advantage when you're CoHing in your raid force. | |||
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01-10-2014, 03:03 PM
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01-10-2014, 03:31 PM
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Trains should be handled with a regime of strict liability. If you want to raid, you assume the risks inherent in mobilizing to a raid mob that is desired by hundreds of other players. You're liable for any harm you cause, whether or not it was intentional or even negligent. This would put the onus on the guild to ensure its members are not training. Police your own guild. If you have members too stupid to get to an encounter without training, then you're inadequately screening and/or instructing your guild members to the detriment of every other raiding guild on the server. You must be held liable, lest we allow your guild's harmful action to be subsidized by another guild's acceptance of the resulting burden. As a guild, you should not expect to be welcomed into the raiding scene until you are capable of controlling your raid force such that you do not negatively impact any other raid force. You are welcome to compete, to race, to kill mobs. You are not welcome to incompetently thrash around and ruin the encounter for everyone else in a mad dash to get FTE. | |||
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01-10-2014, 02:19 PM
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01-10-2014, 01:59 PM
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And this point is increasingly evident every time FE flat out says they will not accept a proposal that leaves them with more pie than they had prior but doesn't also then give them an even bigger slice of the VT/Inny/Trak/CS flavored pie.
Really thats the pie no one else is allowed to touch with their filthy casual hands.
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01-10-2014, 02:52 PM
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There was the Sirken mandate, which basically doubled the spawns and reduced variance, giving 2 of those mobs to the tier2s. The tier1s sang its praises, they got to double their loot and the tier2s didn't get to go over their quota. The tier2s realized that they were basically be dictated the tier1 terms while the tier1s were also getting heavily rewarded (yes, the fact that all their years of bad behavior was just rewarded I'm sure is part of the reason some people objected to it) and dissented. Rogean then proposes a plan where the total mobs are also increased, variance is greatly reduced, the Tier1s end up with more than they had before and the Tier2s get 2-3 of the good mobs. The tier1s whip up into a frenzy and refuse to go with this plan. Not because they're losing mobs, since they're actually gaining mobs, but because the tier2s are now getting 1 too many good mobs. I almost guarantee they'd go with the Rogean plan if it only included repops on mobs that weren't CT/VS/Trak/Inny. A plan where Tier1 ends up with the same number but the Tier2s don't get any extras. In both cases each side ends up with more than they had before. It's just the tier1s refuse to accept that Tier2s will get CT/VS/Trak/Inny. Then when you throw in the fact that the Tier1s are outnumbered more than 2:1 by Tier2s and it just gets even sillier. Tier1s are basically the fat kid at a friends birthday party who ate all the cake and then whines when he doesn't get more ice cream then everyone else.
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01-10-2014, 02:55 PM
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01-10-2014, 02:59 PM
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Say what?
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01-10-2014, 03:00 PM
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http://www.project1999.com/forums/sh...81#post1267081
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