Unbrella - Page 2

Alarti0001 · #1 01-09-2014, 05:46 PM

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My own RnF... I finally made it! I'm a somebody!

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Where did that number come from?

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Raavak · #2 01-09-2014, 05:08 PM

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Less than 5% of the server (TMO, FE and IB combined) is, infact, a minority.

Have you counted the members of these guilds? TMO > 5% of the server.

baalzy · #3 01-09-2014, 05:18 PM

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Have you counted the members of these guilds? TMO > 5% of the server.

Here:
http://p1999pop.dmsimard.com/db/Guilds

TMO 2.31%
FE 1.57%
IB 1.09%
Total = 4.97%

BDA 4.05%
Taken 2.15%
Europa 2.03%
Divinity 1.85%
AG 1.81%
A-Team .88%
Total = 12.77%

baalzy · #4 01-09-2014, 05:18 PM

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Here:
http://p1999pop.dmsimard.com/db/Guilds

TMO 2.31%
FE 1.57%
IB 1.09%
Total = 4.97%

BDA 4.05%
Taken 2.15%
Europa 2.03%
Divinity 1.85%
AG 1.81%
A-Team .88%
Total = 12.77%

In after 'Prove it'

Ella`Ella · #5 01-09-2014, 05:23 PM

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In after 'Prove it'

I'm going to let you figure out what's wrong with your math and the manipulation of statistics instead of telling you - it'll give you something to do.

Splorf22 · #6 01-09-2014, 05:23 PM

Baalzy, your link measures characters not actual players, but if anything that should at least not hurt TMO.

Also, Xasten, you are missing the context. Unbrella wanted Rogean to despawn the efreeti and other non-raid mobs that drop nice gear. Rogean pointed out that he was being a sociopath, and Unbrella starting whining about how FE and TMO were the only people on the server that mattered.

Frieza_Prexus · #7 01-09-2014, 05:25 PM

That's a database of 13,609 characters.

That does nothing to tell us about the number of players. The only thing we have to go off of are the nightly server numbers which hover around 1,000. TMO alone has over 120 active players. Also, you've yet to address the question of why should we count people that have no demonstrable stake in the raid scene.

TMO, FE, and IB are certainly not the majority of the server, but when you discount those who do not raid several different groups will be identifiable. While these three guilds are are not a majority of those concerned with the end game, they are very likely a strong plurality.

baalzy · #8 01-09-2014, 05:34 PM

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That's a database of 13,609 characters.

That does nothing to tell us about the number of players. The only thing we have to go off of are the nightly server numbers which hover around 1,000. TMO alone has over 120 active players. Also, you've yet to address the question of why should we count people that have no demonstrable stake in the raid scene.

TMO, FE, and IB are certainly not the majority of the server, but when you discount those who do not raid several different groups will be identifiable. While these three guilds are are not a majority of those concerned with the end game, they are very likely a strong plurality.

Yes I'm aware it's based on characters. So what. Are you arguing that TMO members have more alts or fewer alts than any one else on the server? It seems entirely likely to me that TMO also has more characters which don't "belong" to anybody but are shared port/buff/tracking bots which would proportionally make your total player count lower.

And while my point of calling you guys less than 5% of the server is conflated, my actual numbers still demonstrates that the 'tier 2' guilds combined are more than twice your number and I'm pretty sure those people are invested enough to 'count' when discussing end-game.

Or are you going to insist that TMO members have fewer alts than non-TMO members?

Tecmos Deception · #9 01-09-2014, 07:31 PM

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The only thing we have to go off of are the nightly server numbers which hover around 1,000. TMO alone has over 120 active players.

Comparing people online at a given time to people who have been online in the last couple weeks isn't quite right either!

Posted from my nexus 7 while I'm trying to take a shit.

Alarti0001 · #10 01-09-2014, 05:47 PM

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Here:
http://p1999pop.dmsimard.com/db/Guilds

TMO 2.31%
FE 1.57%
IB 1.09%
Total = 4.97%

BDA 4.05%
Taken 2.15%
Europa 2.03%
Divinity 1.85%
AG 1.81%
A-Team .88%
Total = 12.77%

Those numbers are very far off how dated are they?