I am pretty sure Nihi made up their own rule pls clarify Sirken

[Kanzar]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is directly from Sirken.



So yes, the cleric CANNOT ress his friends after being pked and forced to LNS.

My suggestion is to bring some friends and force those people out of the zone OR just wait until they leave.

You can make a player agreement and that 100% trumps the PNP. This was stated by the GM's directly. This argument is invalid.

[plagueis]

heartbrand is smart b/c he uses big lawyer words

[Kraftwerk]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's a video game chill on the Cold War rhetoric u nerd

Originally Posted by plagueis [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

heartbrand is smart b/c he uses big lawyer words

Lol which one of the words he used is a "big lawyer word"? Rhetoric? I feel bad or u son if that is the one your considering a BLW

[Mac Dretti]

Take 75 to ragefire to deter PvP from 30 Nihilum. Attempt Gore with same 75, some Nilly spy leaks ambush strat.

Nihilum bard and a couple of covert OP double agents wiped your raid.

Get mad, cry hacks, cry about it not being fair even tho we followed pnp to a T.

This is why we received several elven resumes. Keep on keepn on.

[HippoNipple]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Take 75 to ragefire to deter PvP from 30 Nihilum. Attempt Gore with same 75, some Nilly spy leaks ambush strat.

Nihilum bard and a couple of covert OP double agents wiped your raid.

Get mad, cry hacks, cry about it not being fair even tho we followed pnp to a T.

This is why we received several elven resumes. Keep on keep in on.

I think that many showed up because they were expecting a fight like the night before in SolB and they wanted to participate because it was fun.

Even though you didn't break the rules doesn't mean you guys aren't scum. I for one am not too worried about it, I don't even care about raid loots. I just show up to try to get in on some PvP. Last night would have been boring for me no matter which guild I was in.

You are delusional on how situations like last night persuade people to join Nhilum. Nihilum made some members ashamed to be in Nihilum last night while RD members just realized they made the right choice.

[heartbrand]

Wut? Holy fuck. We wiped due to lag. Gorenaire dropped from 100 to 60% in about 9 seconds. Then, spell bars got greyed out, I was unable to HB my group, etc. Did this happen because of Nihilum? No clue. Is this why we wiped though? Absolutely. Does this deter the mission of continuing to compete whatsoever? Nope.

[Mac Dretti]

Prolly happened cus 115 people zerg army getting feared by gore plus nihilum bards never stop bereavin. Nawmean?

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Mac Dretti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Prolly happened cus 115 people zerg army getting feared by gore plus nihilum bards never stop bereavin. Nawmean?

I've raided with TMO on blue. I haven't seen that happen with more people. This doesn't mean it had anything to do with Nihilum. Maybe it's shitty luck. Who knows, who cares. I would be worried though as a member of either guild with Velious, where both sides will be raiding with deep numbers, dragons that have 300k+ HP. If this is truly a server side issue, it needs addressing or we could be in for some bad fights.

I think the only thing people are saying is it's a bit lame sitting on corpses. It's against the Red Dawn charter, and I wouldn't do it personally. You're entitled to do it though, and I gladly logged off, played two ARAM's and went to sleep, while a bunch of nerds sat on corpses. Woke up and got my corpse npnp this morning.

[Mac Dretti]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've raided with TMO on blue. I haven't seen that happen with more people. This doesn't mean it had anything to do with Nihilum. Maybe it's shitty luck. Who knows, who cares. I would be worried though as a member of either guild with Velious, where both sides will be raiding with deep numbers, dragons that have 300k+ HP. If this is truly a server side issue, it needs addressing or we could be in for some bad fights.

I think the only thing people are saying is it's a bit lame sitting on corpses. It's against the Red Dawn charter, and I wouldn't do it personally. You're entitled to do it though, and I gladly logged off, played two ARAM's and went to sleep, while a bunch of nerds sat on corpses. Woke up and got my corpse npnp this morning.

Oh tmo has enemy guilds bereavin them? Didn't know pvp was enabled there. Also didn't know tmo did gore with 125 people cray.

Maybe you should have gotten on a port bot to help your guildies CR instead of playing aram and saying fuck it.

[Kergan]

I am starting to think the RD thinks any time we stop them from doing a dragon we're griefing them. The PNP is not in place so you can kill mobs.

I was there for the entire engagement, including the setup an hour or so in advance.

Look, here is the deal. You can call us assholes if you want but if you can't see our angle you're just being stubborn. We DO NOT WANT you to kill dragons. Just like you don't want us to kill dragons. Why? Because we are competing with each other.

The simple fact of the matter is we had NO CHOICE but to YT people. Believe me, none of us wanted to waste our time doing that. We have absolutely no claim to zone control until we activate the PNP which is done only by a PVP kill.

I was playing a cleric for the battle and the one doing about 90% of the rezzing. What Stasis is saying is 100% spin doctoring bullshit. I was clicking epic which last I check doesn't have a random % of experience restored attached to it. Secondly, the decision was made and unanimously agreed upon that RD people get a rez and Azrael people don't. I don't think you need me to explain why.

We rezzed some of the biggest trolls and vocal people against us. We rezzed Isosceles. We rezzed Exed. But then Exed did something stupid and plugged while in transit to avoid YT. At that point we couldn't do it anymore. Blame your own idiot guildmate for ruining it for the rest of you. I had rezzed about 7 or 8 people at that point and had many more tells agreeing to get their corpse rezzed, take a quick YT, get a second rez and then LNS. A 2 minute process. We were going to do this for everyone, but Exed ruined it.

The RD PR team will be out in force today, claiming we rule lawyered a method to grief. In reality, our goal was to prevent you from killing Gore, make it so you couldn't try again and go do our thing. This is a PVP server gentlemen, there are far more difficult opponents then dragons. If you don't like it there is a server where you don't have to deal with this.

You wanted these rules. You fought for these rules. Now we're playing by these rules and you still complain. We're not going to roll over for you guys, we're not going to let you guys have free shots at dragons. We're going to contest and that is what this server is about.

And to the many RD I had cordial conversations with last night, thank you. Many of you expressed you understood what we were doing and why and showed me for the first time that the forum warriors here really do not represent the majority of RD.