All Players are Raid Suspended Until Further Notice

[Rec]

A simple solution would be for anyone to stay out of anyone elses raid business

[Yinikren]

The simple solutions were shot down because they don't award TMOFEIB enough mobs (all of them).

[Vyal]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The simple solutions were shot down because they don't award TMOFEIB enough mobs (all of them).

Doh... Those guilds are making RL bank off this server. 182 accounts banned for duping items & they are back 2 weeks later says about all you need to know for anyone who has ever dealt with brokers before.

Seems to me the mods will only unlock the raid mobs for the rest of the server whenever the TMO guild is happy and sure they can keep all the top kills.

Kinda sad but hey Sony pops emu'd server owners for selling items directly for money one huge guild knowing the exact variance spawn time on what a 4 day variance & knowing how to dupe items then coming back to raid lock the entire server - use your heads... If you know you can make thousands & thousands of dollars you don't just let it pass you by.

If that's really the truth behind the server & how it operates so be it.. There is no point for a 5 week long bitch fest on these forums when none of our opinions matter anyways and won't unless you agree with TMO.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Vyal [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Doh... Those guilds are making RL bank off this server. 182 accounts banned for duping items & they are back 2 weeks later says about all you need to know for anyone who has ever dealt with brokers before.

Seems to me the mods will only unlock the raid mobs for the rest of the server whenever the TMO guild is happy and sure they can keep all the top kills.

Kinda sad but hey Sony pops emu'd server owners for selling items directly for money one huge guild knowing the exact variance spawn time on what a 4 day variance & knowing how to dupe items then coming back to raid lock the entire server - use your heads... If you know you can make thousands & thousands of dollars don't just let it pass you by.

Lol did not read raid forum. It is ok. Reading is hard.

[element08]

nobody seems to bring up the option of spawning raid targets more often. Bump it up 50% and almost any proposel becomes acceptable to accomodate different play styles and still leave enough targets around for both hardcore and casual.

[kotton05]

going from dam near no mobs to a good bit of mobs yet still complaining not fair... smh, while I raid led full circle i'd blow my load over free merbs.

[Uteunayr]

Originally Posted by kotton05 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

going from dam near no mobs to a good bit of mobs yet still complaining not fair... smh, while I raid led full circle i'd blow my load over free merbs.

Because it's not about free mobs, it's about being able to play the game in a way you all don't want to. Since you all don't want to change (which is fair), we want to have a share of mobs to play the game in our way.

"I just don't see how any guild, GM or guide can dictate any guild to adapt to a play style they don't want to. Focus on that, figure how the two different sides can adapt it to this problem. Limiting NPCs to one tier or another and forced into the other side's play style is the second biggest issue."

Forcing others to play your version of classic is what has brought about so many conflicts. If these players forced you to play their casual style, conflicts would happen. It is why Rogean's plan provides for separate means for each side to play their own way, without being a detriment on the other.

Further, if you want to mock people saying something isn't fair, define it, and back up why your definition fits. By many definitions in political philosophy of what fairness is, the current distribution is anything but fair, and even Rogean's plan is unfair to the casuals, but it is a level of unfairness that is more fair than the current system. The desire to be left alone from a different raiding style is so extreme, I am sure most are behind giving even more mobs to you all just to let them manage their own business without needing to play the game your way. Let each do their own style in peace from one another.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Uteunayr [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because it's not about free mobs, it's about being able to play the game in a way you all don't want to. Since you all don't want to change (which is fair), we want to have a share of mobs to play the game in our way.

"I just don't see how any guild, GM or guide can dictate any guild to adapt to a play style they don't want to. Focus on that, figure how the two different sides can adapt it to this problem. Limiting NPCs to one tier or another and forced into the other side's play style is the second biggest issue."

Forcing others to play your version of classic is what has brought about so many conflicts. If these players forced you to play their casual style, conflicts would happen. It is why Rogean's plan provides for separate means for each side to play their own way, without being a detriment on the other.

Further, if you want to mock people saying something isn't fair, define it, and back up why your definition fits. By some of the strongest definitions used today in political science, the current distribution is anything but fair, and even Rogean's plan is unfair to the casuals, but it is a level of unfairness that is more fair than the current system. Let each do their own style in peace from one another.

Yeah, you have no idea how this works, do you? You can tone it down about 10000%. Nobody wants to read dissertations on musings on thoughts on top of erudite quandrys on top of written motormouth.

In forum speak... SOOOOOMANY TLDR LAWL

[Yinikren]

Very eloquently put, Utuenayr.

Its not about the mobs - about about playing how we want to play. All these proposals have been shot down because you can't compete with us -only TMO - and you don't want that.

This is why the top 4 mobs are in contention - because we don't want to compete the same way you do and that, by default, means "we don't deserve those mobs" to you.

[Mezzmur]

Originally Posted by Zapatos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

May we remove characters that were parked in those zones before this hit?

Petition or Ask a GM, I asked for my monk to be moved out of VP earlier today.