Proposition For Raid Rules - Input Requested

[quido]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only way to remove that is to wipe the server and ban account sales from day 1 on the new one.

Many of us leveled our own alt armies. Many of us have never bought or sold an account.

[jaybone]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Many of us leveled our own alt armies. Many of us have never bought or sold an account.

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[baramur]

Your just never gonna satisfy everyone. If people believe TMO/FE/IB are just gonna say screw our hardcore style lets rotate everything, your crazy. If you think Rogean wants them to do so, your crazy. Rogean has said before he doesn't want forced rotation he wants competition. The server as a whole is asking for the upper guilds...TMO/FE/IB to not monopolize the server, and they are agreeing, and yet you are still saying not enough, not enough. Even when approached with with them only allowed a combined 50 percent of raid mobs you still scream, not enough for casuals. This has become funny to me. If TMO/FE/IB agreed to only raid 1 week a month, you would still scream they are killing to much, or that your not getting enough for your limited playtime.

[baramur]

I guess the issue is:
1) Why do people feel entitled to things they never tried to work for. I see some guilds posting that i have never seen sit a Sev camp with a force, hoping he might spawn (yes this was done on live).

2)Why people believe whatever is decided is what is set in stone. This agreement needs to be drafted like the constitution, adaptable with the ability to be ever changing.

3)Before we shoot for the moon, lets worry about lift-off.

4)You already have TMO/FE/IB agreeing to not monopolize mobs and open up the raid scene, are insults really the way to go. Why do you feel its a good idea to insult them at every turn.

5) IF currently TMO/FE/IB Combined are getting 9/10 of the raid content, with pretty much no other guild standing a chance at mobs like vs/trak, wouldnt any plan that frees up more raid mobs, and actually gives others a fighting chance at trak/vs an improvement?

[Yinikren]

This once a week thing doesn't sound like a good idea. I am 100% sure anyone who wants to raid and isn't in TMO/IBFE doesn't want to go on vacation waiting for 3 weeks to pass so they can get mobs again.

Weighted point system. Make guilds choose what mobs they want each week. Keep FTE and remove variance. I am still finishing up my draft for it.

And I apologize Jeremy. Might have been someone else, but for some reason 5/6 mobs and making 6 guilds fight for the last one rings heavily in my mind.

[baramur]

Originally Posted by Yinikren [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This once a week thing doesn't sound like a good idea. I am 100% sure anyone who wants to raid and isn't in TMO/IBFE doesn't want to go on vacation waiting for 3 weeks to pass so they can get mobs again.

Weighted point system. Make guilds choose what mobs they want each week. Keep FTE and remove variance. I am still finishing up my draft for it.

And I apologize Jeremy. Might have been someone else, but for some reason 5/6 mobs and making 6 guilds fight for the last one rings heavily in my mind.

All guilds would be open to raid all month, except tmo/ib/fe who would have to sit out 1 week. Why would the other guilds go on vacation? You know they could actually try going after mobs and killing them, and like i said i think you would see some leniency from tmo/fe/ib on alot of mobs during those other 3 weeks also.

[Joroz]

pretty sure anyone is able to compete at any time on that system... just those two guilds would sit out a week each month allowing other raiders to take a crack at mobs that they would normally refuse to do the camp-out/bat-phone style of p99 for.

[goshozal]

What this sytem really needs is some spreadsheets.

[Yinikren]

If guilds have had success for the last two years "just going after mobs" we wouldn't be having this conversation.

We have to limit guild intake of the mob pie. Without making a rotation, the best course of action is a point system that precludes guilds from targets so they have to choose what to go after each week.

[Joroz]

actually any raid that wants to do the camp-out a raid force and bat-phone should sit out the week with the big guilds... this would prevent any other raid guilds from using the same tactics to get mobs when everyone else that uses the tactic is sitting out.