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Old 12-21-2013, 03:21 AM
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The two dupers... are you banning MAC addresses as well as IP? Money can make people surprisingly resilient.
There is no way to keep them off the server if they don't want to be kept off. MAC addresses can be spoofed. IP's can be changed, VPN's can be used.
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Old 12-21-2013, 04:08 AM
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:21 AM
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Old 12-21-2013, 01:20 PM
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When a player playing a team sport does something against the rules he receives a penalty which affects the team as well, when a hockey player uses an illegal stick and receives a penalty, the team then plays 4 against 5 for the duration of the penalty, same with soccer and every other team sport, the team suffers from the action of 1 player. Ive never seen any coach saying "thats not fair, it was only 1 player why is the whole team being punished?" or threatning to disband the team or pull out of the game.

If you choose to give someone your account info thats your problem, you chose to trust them with that info and now pay the price for that decision.

I never had anything against TMO since ive played on this server but the way you handled this was probably the worst way you could of done it. What you should of done was give an apoligy for the actions of the 2 members that screwed you and take your suspension like grown ups.
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Old 12-21-2013, 08:40 PM
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Having not played in several months, and then coming back and seeing this post, I can't stop laughing. Here's the thing, I have friends in TMO and I know some TMO people personally. I can tell you that there is absolutely no way that there was no knowledge at all by at least ONE person higher up in TMO. They will claim ignorance and they will claim injustice and they will cry and whine and play new games, but you broke the rules. You (as a guild) broke the server rules. It's like the Duck People drama, the channel that has that show has to view it from a business perspective. They will lose advertisers over idiots. You guys being the idiots on this occasion decided to share your pixels among each other. While admirable, did you not think something like this could possibly happen and make your guild look bad? If you didn't, shame on your leadership. Honestly, stop crying about what happened and take action to fix it or just leave the server. OF COURSE another guild will start dominate just as you have. OF COURSE they will be as hated as you guys in six months. And if this happens to them, they should revolt against their leaders or just not be as FUCKING STUPID and share your accounts with people you don't know. All of TMO needs to watch the Oprah specials on little children being offered candy by creepers to be lured into the back of a van. Because that's what you did with your accounts, and you deserve way worse then the OBVIOUS leniency that has been shown by the GM's here (that I would argue is simply because they didn't want to lose all the TMO players). Be grateful the "innocent players" are allowed to keep their accounts. They are not innocent at all if they shared their account with some random d-bag sitting in a dark room in a basement eating doritos and playing a game that is over a decade old 18 hours a day. It is your own fault. Use common sense, and stop blaming others for your own problems.
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Old 12-22-2013, 01:09 AM
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Aw, does the truth hurt? The only people who sympathize with these people are themselves. I'm not sure if you even took the time to read every post, but the general consensus was that this "punishment" is weak.
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Old 12-21-2013, 02:02 PM
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From my point of view, much of the account sharing, raiding monopoly problem, and economy inflation all stem from a primary thing:

Accounts here are free and unlimited.

Back in Classic, truly there were people with multiple accounts, but not anywhere near like it is on P99 where anyone can have as many as they like.

Free, multiple accounts =
More sharing. It's a minor inconvenience if someone violates trust on an 11th account that is seldom used. In Classic, that account (for which you were paying $15/mo) represented your online identity and reputation, huge investment of time, and was cherished. Clearly, removing the cost devalues it considerably.

Free, multiple accounts =
Incentive to level many characters and equip them (hence hoarding all raid bosses for 4th alts) in order to share for tracking, rezzing, porting, and camping high value mobs (epic MQs) etc. This further increases the ability to hoard the raid scene.

A monopolized raid scene results in inflation.

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Old 12-21-2013, 02:22 PM
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From my point of view, much of the account sharing, raiding monopoly problem, and economy inflation all stem from a primary thing:

Accounts here are free and unlimited.

Back in Classic, truly there were people with multiple accounts, but not anywhere near like it is on P99 where anyone can have as many as they like.

Free, multiple accounts =
More sharing. It's a minor inconvenience if someone violates trust on an 11th account that is seldom used. In Classic, that account (for which you were paying $15/mo) represented your online identity and reputation, huge investment of time, and was cherished. Clearly, removing the cost devalues it considerably.

Free, multiple accounts =
Incentive to level many characters and equip them (hence hoarding all raid bosses for 4th alts) in order to share for tracking, rezzing, porting, and camping high value mobs (epic MQs) etc. This further increases the ability to hoard the raid scene.

A monopolized raid scene results in inflation.

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A wise assessment. A classic server with one account per person would interest me. Not sure how it could be implemented.
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Old 12-21-2013, 03:16 PM
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A wise assessment. A classic server with one account per person would interest me. Not sure how it could be implemented.
Through the use of Rogean's SMS verification system. it will not completely eliminate multiple accounts per a person, however it will make it significantly more difficult as each account will require a unique cell phone #.
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Old 12-21-2013, 09:08 PM
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Through the use of Rogean's SMS verification system. it will not completely eliminate multiple accounts per a person, however it will make it significantly more difficult as each account will require a unique cell phone #.
I would totally support a transfer to this system. Just have a 1 week grace period so people could shuffle around their accounts to all be on one login server account.
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