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Old 12-20-2013, 09:23 AM
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Old 12-20-2013, 09:45 AM
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If we do not see a significant improvement in the behavior of the raiding guilds and how they treat each other, Velious will be released without raid content.
This was my favorite part of the post although I liked all of it. I've always thought EQ would be a lot of fun without raiding and everything can be done with a single group. Even if raid content was removed, I do wonder if the same assholes that cock block content now would just block whatever the highest remaining content is. It's pretty sad that some people can't play nice, instead they shit in our sandbox.

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Old 12-20-2013, 10:08 AM
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:20 AM
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It continues to be an aggravating realization among CSR staff that 10% of the server population causes 90% of the problems. We are all for competition, but it needs to be fair competition. We are also all here for the same thing, to experience classic Everquest. The same guild monopolizing raid content for 2 years that they might not even need anymore is ridiculous, just to block other guilds from the chance of gearing up to take on the same end game content.

I was thinking to myself the other day and I came to ask myself.. Are we providing this server to give people the arena to compete to such bitter extremes that it has resorted to taking every absolute measure to be victorious, or are we here to provide a classic Everquest experience for everyone to enjoy?

A lot of you make fun of it in your own terms, but it really does come down to fighting over very old content.

Either way, we're tired of the constant bickering, the training, the ninja looting, and all the other bullshit that's going on. So here's what we're going to do.

Starting today and then evaluated when Velious is released the CSR staff will be keeping track of how the raid guilds are treating eachother. If we do not see a significant improvement in the behavior of the raiding guilds and how they treat eachother, Velious will be released without raid content. To be clear, we want an enjoyable raid scene for everyone, not just one or two guilds. This means working together to figure out a compromise when racing for mobs, and working with smaller guilds to let them have a chance at mobs you don't absolutely need for gearing main characters..
Thanks for the post, and I think this is a step in the right direction. However, with variance and first engaged being the ruleset then there is still zero chance for guilds to do this content on their own. What we'll see is invitations from large guilds to essentially watch them kill these MOBs and get offered the scraps that have no real value, such as TMO has done with Europa and AG so far.

Why not remove variance, employ play nice, and set up a rotation of capable guilds so smaller guilds actually have a chance at this content? Tagging along and being offered worthless scraps doesn't solve the problem, or help the server in any way.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:24 AM
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I have been on this server for years, enjoying reliving my past glory’s, spending what time I have as a grown adult to level my single character. It’s been a blast, but was has truly saddened and frustrated me over the years is viewing all these threads slagging each other off, RnF or not. Ladies and Gents, it’s a game most of us played 14 years ago, why are you still behaving like the kids you were then? Truly sad, I really do wonder what my non-gaming mates would say if they read some of these comments in these posts… ‘sad bastards’ comes to mind!

I don’t often post on these forums, but I do read them often. And this post today has urged me to post for once.

Zeelot I have heard you’re a good guy, and that goes for some TMO members too, but unfortunately not all of your members are the same. You have a chance to start something off and be remembered for something bigger then TMO, you could be known as the person that made this server truly great for the whole community.

All im asking that you kindly do is think about the community, and why this server was created. It was built by the community leaders for the community. You claim your guild only goes by the rules, and it’s these rules which make you horde end game content (which your mains do not need), which ultimately means the rest of the EQ loving community don’t get to see the end game they once did or never had the chance to do.

Please explain to me the reasons why TMO feel the need to monopolise content and not share with the community? It’s an emulated server meant for everyone to enjoy all aspect of the game.

Competition is certainly classic, by its very nature it is the way it was designed, but this doesn’t mean the community are not allowed to come to a gentleman’s agreement and share! I just cannot understand why it brings more joy to you and your guild mates to batphone all hours of the day to kill stuff that you don’t need, with a force so large in numbers that it means all content isn’t a challenge… where is the drive and motivation… it’s not really for items, nor is it for the challenge?

Take for example epics, I for one want to quest mine from start to finish, you know, to get that feeling of achievement which EQ was once all about, and it did a tremendous job of making you feel that way. I can 100% say every single player on this server felt this back on live at some point, whether it was finally killing Ambassador DVinn in CB, or getting your first bit of planar armour, to then clearing your first plane, killing your first dragon etc.

I certainly didn’t come to play classic EQ to get my feeling of achievement by buying the bits I need for my epic because a few guilds monopolise the content.. Far from it, I joined to relive my past adventures and get that feeling of achievement once more, and actually downing each and every mob in order to earn them. But alas I have a real life, and therefore have a lot less time on my hands now that im a grown adult. So as it stands on this server, the few are blocking the majority of the P1999 community in doing what was meant to be a project for everyone. Why in today’s day and age can I not as a semi casual player get a shot at 14 year old content?

The arguments based on more time put in = more rewards is very true in most things, including RL. So yes you do have a claim to do this content, you have earnt it, but why would you continue to prevent other guilds at enjoying content that you do not need, it’s just not logical except purely for greed and selfish reasons. That’s where I come back to the community, EQ is a community, ALL the top guilds need to act like one so we can all enjoy it, simple as that.

I for one hope the ‘less hardcore’ players with lives outside EQ are given the opportunity by the community to enjoy all the content that Rogean, Nilbog etc have provided. I also hope that the GM’s reflect on my post and have the strength and fortitude to stand fast in their commitment to making this server something for the entire community once more. And if needs be, enforce a method which ensures that all raid level guilds get a chance at all content, a chance to feel achievement once more, a chance to relive our misspent youth.

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Old 12-20-2013, 11:27 AM
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GMs -- a GM enforced raid rotation might sound like a lot of work, but i think it would actually be less work than dealing with all the training, ninjalooting, killstealing, indefinite kiting, etc etc etc that has happened in the recent past.

plus, it would make a LOT of people happy to finally be able to do classic endgame raids without having to get involved in all the drama that surrounds the guilds that have been on top for the last year or three.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:32 AM
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GMs -- a GM enforced raid rotation might sound like a lot of work, but i think it would actually be less work than dealing with all the training, ninjalooting, killstealing, indefinite kiting, etc etc etc that has happened in the recent past.

plus, it would make a LOT of people happy to finally be able to do classic endgame raids without having to get involved in all the drama that surrounds the guilds that have been on top for the last year or three.
People will just keep creating alt guilds until there are 50 guilds on the rotation.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:36 AM
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People will just keep creating alt guilds until there are 50 guilds on the rotation.
this community is not that large. they would be found out and disbanded.
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Old 12-20-2013, 11:38 AM
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Make it a rule that toons from one IP can only be in one raid guild.

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Old 12-20-2013, 11:47 AM
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Raid Scene
It continues to be an aggravating realization among CSR staff that 10% of the server population causes 90% of the problems. We are all for competition, but it needs to be fair competition. We are also all here for the same thing, to experience classic Everquest. The same guild monopolizing raid content for 2 years that they might not even need anymore is ridiculous, just to block other guilds from the chance of gearing up to take on the same end game content.

I was thinking to myself the other day and I came to ask myself.. Are we providing this server to give people the arena to compete to such bitter extremes that it has resorted to taking every absolute measure to be victorious, or are we here to provide a classic Everquest experience for everyone to enjoy?

A lot of you make fun of it in your own terms, but it really does come down to fighting over very old content.

Either way, we're tired of the constant bickering, the training, the ninja looting, and all the other bullshit that's going on. So here's what we're going to do.

Starting today and then evaluated when Velious is released the CSR staff will be keeping track of how the raid guilds are treating eachother. If we do not see a significant improvement in the behavior of the raiding guilds and how they treat eachother, Velious will be released without raid content. To be clear, we want an enjoyable raid scene for everyone, not just one or two guilds. This means working together to figure out a compromise when racing for mobs, and working with smaller guilds to let them have a chance at mobs you don't absolutely need for gearing main characters.

Don't think that this means you can continue shitting on each other and just not petition, the staff will still be watching.
I respect that you guys want to stay back and let the players sort things out as to how to run the raid scene here as much as possible, as that is in general preferable to some authority coming in to determine these things. But it has become clear that this server has a certain population of very anti-social people who will fight harder to deny other people loot than the other people will fight for their own loot. This is just a game after all and it doesn't really serve the server as a whole to have one guild gearing out a dozen toons per person just to camp at each raid spawn and keep everything locked down. I can't imagine that's healthy for the people doing the monopolization and it's certainly not much fun for the rest of the server.

This is a rather unfortunate situation and I think it's great that we'll start to see some push from the staff to curtail this behavior. It's sad that it got to this point, but eventually the adults have to take the toys away from the kids and put them to bed.
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