PvP Zone?

[UncleDread]

Originally Posted by XeldiablosX [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cuz it takes a lot of skill to corpse camp someone thats 30 levels lower than you >.>

If you cant handle the heat get the hell out of the oven.If you had FRIENDS you could group up and take down any Lvl that was greifing you.So your point is?

[XeldiablosX]

Originally Posted by UncleDread [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you cant handle the heat get the hell out of the oven.If you had FRIENDS you could group up and take down any Lvl that was greifing you.So your point is?

Lol thats exactly my point, someone kills you or whatever and you get 50 other friends to swing by an just grief him. That takes Massive skill man lemme tell ya lol. Main point is the zone will be useless because apparently only 3 or 4 people on the entire server want it. Christ look at the arena ... how often is it even used and its only flagged once you step into the arena, if you want a zone that flags when you zone in. I see people camping the zoners since you load in before you can do anything.

Overall it will only bring more grief, QQing and useless petitions because so an so killed me while i was zoning.

[mark1178]

I would like to see some pvp here since the reason I played live EQ back in the day was because of the pvp, and being on the evil side, it was a challenge since every other race was targetting you. But, as a true pvp'er we followed certain player made rules (no attacking someone while they're on a mob, no corpse camping, Loot and Scoot -which was followed in the early days of Vallon Zek) which many players abided by.

What ruins that whole dynamic is the fact that there are those idiots who think themselves as pvp'ers when all they do is cheapen the "fair fight" aspect of pvp and wait for you to get your health really low and gank you or attack you while you have mobs on you...which I really HATE.

A true showing of how respect worked in pvp was when my old guild Infectus on Vallon Zek was raiding KD, we were midway through the castle and the top guild on the server, Defiant, showed up. Of course we were ready for them even though we knew we would lose due to them being the best guild and having all races, and we just having the Evil races with no rangers/druids/gaybards. But, as we pulled one more mob, they were around the corner, and just waited. They sat there and waited until we killed the mob and right when it was close to dead one of them shouted "Are you ready?" and our guild leader shouted back "One sec, rezzing a few" and they replied "Ok". And once everyone was ready and buffed up, we yelled out "Lets do this!" and had the best pvp match ever. Yes we lost due to them having the best gear in game, but that was a true showing on how it used to be when people followed the player made rules and respected one another. Not like now where more and more people zone/corpse camp, wait for you to get low on health, hack, it all sickens me. The only time you could corpse camp was when the player you killed didnt Loot and Scoot, but that was up to you, Ive let many people stay there and do as they wished as long as they left me alone.

Yes I'd love pvp on this server since I loved the pre-PoP days more (I love boat rides to OT, gives me time to make a sandwich and play gems) but it can prove to be a double edged sword. One side, you have people like me who pvp for roleplays sake and honor the rules. On the other, you have people who all they do is pvp. And there's that one side where the "pvp'er" is a hacker, ganker, corpse/zone camper and all around tool.

It would be nice but it just really depends on how many "true roleplayers" there are over "morons". I do miss those Nek forest/EC wars though. Lighties on EC, and Darkies on Nek and waiting for someone to pass through.

[HippoNipple]

I'm all for the pvp at all times but maybe it was because I was on an item loot server. With pp loot only I understand being more honorable with the fights because killing someone is more about the honor and doesn't involve you just wanting something they have.

One thing that would suck about introducing PvP on this server, this late, would be the people who are already geared out. PvP servers are a lot harder to progress then on blue servers, and you would be handing it to all of the old players. It's always tougher for new people to join a pvp server later on, and this would be magnified by allowing the starting people to be blue for so long.

I for one don't mind starting out as a huge underdog but most do, so it won't happen here. If PvP does happen on this server it wouldn't be server wide, it would have many limitations.

[mark1178]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm all for the pvp at all times but maybe it was because I was on an item loot server. With pp loot only I understand being more honorable with the fights because killing someone is more about the honor and doesn't involve you just wanting something they have.

One thing that would suck about introducing PvP on this server, this late, would be the people who are already geared out. PvP servers are a lot harder to progress then on blue servers, and you would be handing it to all of the old players. It's always tougher for new people to join a pvp server later on, and this would be magnified by allowing the starting people to be blue for so long.

I for one don't mind starting out as a huge underdog but most do, so it won't happen here. If PvP does happen on this server it wouldn't be server wide, it would have many limitations.

I completely agree. For old guys like me who know the most of the games ins and outs, coming in (started last saturday I think) this late, it would be a pain in the butt. But, it's not enouhg to stop me and I totally see it stopping some of the new players first coming in and seeing some twinked out lvl 20 warrior with full crafted gank them with their banded armor.

Item loot was fun, I remember making naked runs from Neriak to Oggok as part of my first guilds initiation. Also I remember a time a friend gave me a full set of bronze armor and I lost it all in a few hours. Good times. Any kind of point system though pretty much ruins it for me, I like to pvp because of the fact that I love pvp. Rewards just increases the chances of people ganking and or cheating.

[Overcast]

Originally Posted by mark1178 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would like to see some pvp here since the reason I played live EQ back in the day was because of the pvp, and being on the evil side, it was a challenge since every other race was targetting you. But, as a true pvp'er we followed certain player made rules (no attacking someone while they're on a mob, no corpse camping, Loot and Scoot -which was followed in the early days of Vallon Zek) which many players abided by.

What ruins that whole dynamic is the fact that there are those idiots who think themselves as pvp'ers when all they do is cheapen the "fair fight" aspect of pvp and wait for you to get your health really low and gank you or attack you while you have mobs on you...which I really HATE.

A true showing of how respect worked in pvp was when my old guild Infectus on Vallon Zek was raiding KD, we were midway through the castle and the top guild on the server, Defiant, showed up. Of course we were ready for them even though we knew we would lose due to them being the best guild and having all races, and we just having the Evil races with no rangers/druids/gaybards. But, as we pulled one more mob, they were around the corner, and just waited. They sat there and waited until we killed the mob and right when it was close to dead one of them shouted "Are you ready?" and our guild leader shouted back "One sec, rezzing a few" and they replied "Ok". And once everyone was ready and buffed up, we yelled out "Lets do this!" and had the best pvp match ever. Yes we lost due to them having the best gear in game, but that was a true showing on how it used to be when people followed the player made rules and respected one another. Not like now where more and more people zone/corpse camp, wait for you to get low on health, hack, it all sickens me. The only time you could corpse camp was when the player you killed didnt Loot and Scoot, but that was up to you, Ive let many people stay there and do as they wished as long as they left me alone.

Yes I'd love pvp on this server since I loved the pre-PoP days more (I love boat rides to OT, gives me time to make a sandwich and play gems) but it can prove to be a double edged sword. One side, you have people like me who pvp for roleplays sake and honor the rules. On the other, you have people who all they do is pvp. And there's that one side where the "pvp'er" is a hacker, ganker, corpse/zone camper and all around tool.

It would be nice but it just really depends on how many "true roleplayers" there are over "morons". I do miss those Nek forest/EC wars though. Lighties on EC, and Darkies on Nek and waiting for someone to pass through.

hehe, yeah - remember situations like that. Defiant was tough.. Iron Tower too, if you remember them - for a while. I think Defiant ended up the #1 guild on the server.

You remember the old 'lightie' guild Combine Resurrection? They played kinda hard core - only barbs, human, erudite.. mostly Qeynos area, wouldn't group with Elves, Dwarves, etc..

I was mostly in small guilds on Vallon, but I do recall seeing Infectus around. I started playing 'lighties' on VZ, but eventually ended up playing Dark most all of the time.

Another guild that I recall was 'Ministry of Hate' - they'd zone in or get a kill and /shout "Praise Hate!", lol

Dangit, I can't even remember what guild(s) I was in, there was a few and none really went to far on there. I think one of the lightie guilds was called 'Knights of Eternal Light' and ... Wicked Souls later in the game on the dark side, but there was another I was in for a while on the dark side, I just can't seem to remember the name!! Was mid-sized and around for a little bit... dang it, it will come to me eventually now that the thought is stuck in my head~

I mostly played a DE Enchanter there named 'Viiper' - hey you were Darkie? You remember a mother fucker named 'Dillweed'? He was like planar twinked or someshit - always in Oasis - ganking the hell out of people.

Once... my root stuck to him - yeah, he was twinked so that even when I was levels above him, WITH tash, I couldn't stick anything on him.. I was hanging with a RL friend who was playing an Ogre Warrior... root stuck on him (Dillweed the Rogue) - the warrior friend of mine jumped in on him - I just chain casted root. I was NOT about to let him move, if you got him 'low' on health, he's run off with Jboots and a couple minutes later, he'd be back at full health. But he stayed rooted and got owned - if you want to call it that. Was the last time I ever seen him.

[XeldiablosX]

LOL I like that =p

[HippoNipple]

lol alright guys I fail, I will give it up because I enjoy this server enough to not worry about it. It gets me riled up sometimes to think of how much fun it would be, but I've been around long enough to know it wont happen here. This is my first time playing pure PvE on any game and I'm having some fun as of now.

[Straif]

Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol alright guys I fail, I will give it up because I enjoy this server enough to not worry about it. It gets me riled up sometimes to think of how much fun it would be, but I've been around long enough to know it wont happen here. This is my first time playing pure PvE on any game and I'm having some fun as of now.

I'm far from "for PvP" on this particular project. But I do give you props as you do raise good points & can articulate your argument better than most of the people who normally start with: "Need to pwn nubs with the hax, if you don't like Pvp your a fucking pussy blue fag lulz!"

[Tallenn]

I didn't mean to imply that PvP ruined that other server- it was the players that ruined it. MMO PvP attracts a certain type of person to it. I'm not suggesting that you, or any of the people that have asked for PvP on P99 are among those. However, you cannot deny that if PvP begins to become more prevalent, those types of people- probably the very ones who have ruined VZ/TZ (or whatever it's called) will also be attracted to P99.

No doubt most of them have already created characters here- but so far, they quickly learn that P99 has nothing for them, they get bored, and they rarely play here. If PvP takes more of a role here, those same jerks that ruined your server will come here to ruin this one, too.