PvP Zone? - Page 4

HippoNipple · #1 08-23-2010, 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallenn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, what? You've already ruined your own pool, now you want to piss in ours, too?

There's probably a reason that server is a piece of crap. We'd like to keep that crap out of P99, thank you very much.

You could use that same argument to say PvE ruined all the other crappy emulator servers. That has nothing to do with it.

XeldiablosX · #2 08-23-2010, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Tallenn [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So, what? You've already ruined your own pool, now you want to piss in ours, too?

There's probably a reason that server is a piece of crap. We'd like to keep that crap out of P99, thank you very much.

Agreed and to quote *insert random orc or gnoll here*

“You’ve ruined your own lands, you’ll not ruin mine!”

Drasis · #3 08-24-2010, 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HippoNipple [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where is there a pvp server, you mean that crappy run one with 30 people on it at a time? As for making my own I'm not a programmer... I just play games and I don't have the resources to make a p1999. That means I don't get what I want but still what a stupid suggestion, for me to make my own server by myself. If there was only a PvP server I'm sure you would be working on your own PvE server buddy.

Explaining PvP for people who dont understand it and resist it:

It has nothing to do with "victimizing." PvP is an aspect of the game that should be in every roleplaying game from the start. Many argue Everquest is great because of the freedom. You can attack any npc you want or go jump in some lava, unlike many other mmorpgs. Why can't you attack the real player next to you if they are screwing you over somehow? Yes maybe some will use it to grief others but PvP is real, you pay for your actions and reputation on a PvP server. Having true enemies and allies in a rpg is a huge plus for me (but obviously not everything since I still enjoy this server more than other games out there right now). Especially when that enemy is a certain guild or player instead of the game just starting me out on a different side. Everquest PvP allows you to develop your own enemies unlike other games PvP like WoW. The only enemies you have in PvE Everquest is the guild sitting next to you going for a spawn, which is very weak and there is never any satisfying revenge or victory in that type of rivalry. It only results in spending hours and hours camping and bitching/complaining.

The reason it is good isn't just so you can victimize people as you say. The whole ideal behind Everquest being harsh and real compared to other games is an argument for PvP, but unfortunately that is crossing the line for realness and harshness for most players.

This is right on. Personally I never played a blue server until this one, and I find it all very vanilla...very very vanilla. The mentality in PvE seems to be that EQ is just an extension of our comfortable 1st World lives. Everyone works together to achieve shared goals, and all competition between players is very passive aggressive, like we all work for the same company and cant openly rip each others' hearts out, for instance. Aren't your normal lives safe enough? Why shouldn't you have to watch your backs in an RPG?

Don't get me wrong. Everyone here is very nice and helpful, but we're killing orcs with our bare hands at level 1... why can't I lynch any old Troll who comes strolling through my home town? Why can't you be a villain? The only path to infamy is training and KSing, which are both stupid and get you petitioned yadda yadda.

And the whining over camped spawns is making my ears bleed.

Thana8088 · #4 08-27-2010, 08:27 PM

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XeldiablosX · #5 08-22-2010, 07:21 PM

Well if ya want pvp then get some people together an start a guild to pvp with each other, or there is always the obvious choice of another server because i know plenty that are strictly pvp if that suits your fancy.

XeldiablosX · #6 08-23-2010, 02:16 AM

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I know I'm not the only one desperate for some PvP action here on P99. Would it be possible to add a PvP zone where everyone is flagged when they zone in? I was thinking something along the lines of using a zone from an unused expansion and possibly splitting into two zones with one being 1-30, the other 31-50. Entrance would be through a nondescript NPC translocator somewhere like EC tunnel.

Would this ruin the classic feeling or add some much needed PvP? No loot, no rewards, just a place to get beat up and corpse camped.

Then to answer your question, No its not classic. Resolved. Next question?

As suggested in the thread there are forms of pvp available, I merely suggested the grouping/guild mates that like to pvp thing for those that ... wish for that. Since this is not wow and there is no wintergrasp here, Most likey that will not be seen here.

azxten · #7 08-23-2010, 02:17 AM

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Then to answer your question, No its not classic. Resolved. Next question?

Nothing, that was it.

Overcast · #8 08-23-2010, 09:41 AM

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Then to answer your question, No its not classic. Resolved. Next question?

As suggested in the thread there are forms of pvp available, I merely suggested the grouping/guild mates that like to pvp thing for those that ... wish for that. Since this is not wow and there is no wintergrasp here, Most likey that will not be seen here.

Maybe the biggest 'issue' is when you turn in the Discord book, you are pretty much useless for anything other than solo or PvP.

Of course, it's not pure classic - but couldn't that be changed? Like.. enable buffing/heals of group members and/or guild members if you are flagged?

Of course, it opens up 'unreachable' healers and such, but it might still open the option up some.

That's one thing WoW did right - PvP flag..

XeldiablosX · #9 08-23-2010, 11:27 AM

Enjoy'd pvp quite a bit on most games, but EQ was not one of them it was rather dull an boring here compared to all others I have played. However some people detest pvp at all so its kind of unfair to say they are scared and that they would enjoy it.

The main problem with any type of pvp "open, semi open" is the griefing and corpse camping. Yea its great when your the one griefing, but when your on the receiving end it's not so good. Its why I have always preferred that if you want to pvp join a pvp server.

XeldiablosX · #10 08-23-2010, 12:07 PM

Cuz it takes a lot of skill to corpse camp someone thats 30 levels lower than you >.> jk =p But I can see what you mean. Not sure if that will be implemented at all though. However the funny part to that whole concept is ... there will be 2 people in the entire zone, rogues at that trying to find the other for hours til one zones an leaves of boredom and eventually the zone will be a waste of space.