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Old 12-06-2013, 12:48 PM
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So in other words you can just claim Hierophant and Baron and not the entire Crypt Camp if you are just doing the two, or just Hiero if that is all your are killing?
No. You have to claim the whole camp as a whole. Claiming 1-3 mobs is not viable. If a person is capable of holding down the entire camp solo, more power to them!

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If this is the precedent, there ought to be a sticky defining what EVERY camp in the game is.

I've never wanted to camp just one mob in crypt, but I never had a problem with anyone who has. It's muddy rules like these that contribute to the lawyering that goes on on this server.

BTW I am pretty jealous of that UI and want the same!
Unfortunately it's a camp consisting of 4 named mobs, where most of the valuables lie in only two of the mobs, and not just a single named camp. Thanks! I'll be releasing an updated version of the UI as soon as I implement the original spellbook.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:56 PM
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No. You have to claim the whole camp as a whole. Claiming 1-3 mobs is not viable. If a person is capable of holding down the entire camp solo, more power to them!



Unfortunately it's a camp consisting of 4 named mobs, where most of the valuables lie in only two of the mobs, and not just a single named camp. Thanks! I'll be releasing an updated version of the UI as soon as I implement the original spellbook.


Actually I don't see that by Derubel's explanation. He says if you want to claim all of crypt you have to kill all 4. He never says you can't call "Heiro" if that is the only mob you are camping. Now I hope that is what he is saying. But by his wording it just looks like he is saying if you call crypt camp you have to kill all 4 or share it.
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:59 PM
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Actually I don't see that by Derubel's explanation. He says if you want to claim all of crypt you have to kill all 4. He never says you can't call "Heiro" if that is the only mob you are camping. Now I hope that is what he is saying. But by his wording it just looks like he is saying if you call crypt camp you have to kill all 4 or share it.
Aye, I probably just worded what I said incorrectly. This is correct.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:00 PM
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how do i acquire OPs UI?
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Old 12-06-2013, 12:56 PM
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That makes no sense, If I want to go into the Baron room sit on his spawn and claim him as a camp. So if I am there first killing the Baron and a group wants to come down that means I automatically have to leave and they have precedent over me?
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:01 PM
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That makes no sense, If I want to go into the Baron room sit on his spawn and claim him as a camp. So if I am there first killing the Baron and a group wants to come down that means I automatically have to leave and they have precedent over me?
Or start killing all four mobs, yes. Or work something out with the group.

Like I said, ruling each room as an individual camp has FAR more headache and abuse potential then just calling the whole crypt one camp.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:06 PM
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Or start killing all four mobs, yes. Or work something out with the group.

Like I said, ruling each room as an individual camp has FAR more headache and abuse potential then just calling the whole crypt one camp.
Ridiculous.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:09 PM
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Ridiculous.
Agreed. Saying that a group is able to claim a camp that someone is already camping just because they have more people is beyond ridiculous.
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:07 PM
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Or start killing all four mobs, yes. Or work something out with the group.

Like I said, ruling each room as an individual camp has FAR more headache and abuse potential then just calling the whole crypt one camp.
Glad it's so cut and dry, So what defines a camp? is it all NPCs within aggro range of where you would be camping? because you can stay in the room and kill 1 NPC without getting aggro of more?
Is it all NPCs within a 30 foot area?

If a camp is defined as an area that a person or group can clear, then whatever I can clear is my camp? I don't go into Crypt and farm a single boss but I don't understand how you can tell people they can't claim just 1 NPC as a camp if they can hold it. I know you want to encourage grouping but that is not everyone's game.

I agree that if someone is killing the entire Crypt area that one asshole SHOULDN'T be allowed to move in and then say on you were killing Emperor so you weren't here so I'm taking the Hiero as a camp.

But visa versa is just stupid if the person was there FIRST and a group comes in and just takes the spawn he has been killing well isn't this group doing the same thing that the Asshole in the first situation was doing to the group?
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Old 12-06-2013, 01:14 PM
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I agree that if someone is killing the entire Crypt area that one asshole SHOULDN'T be allowed to move in and then say on you were killing Emperor so you weren't here so I'm taking the Hiero as a camp.
Heh, I remember Jeremy doing this back when Kunark first released and it causing a giant RnF storm.

I don't think it's unreasonable if the camp is completely empty except for 1 person camping 1 particular named for that person to be able to keep it if another group wants to roll in, but if a group is already there and demonstrates the ability to keep all rooms clear then they should have control of all those rooms if they choose to.
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