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#1
11-28-2013, 05:00 PM
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lol tort reform not ending for-profit care ... yea, limit how much you can be sued for but go ahead and steal from the sick... u must be a lawyer
no one is turned away from care because doctors are bound by ethics, not because of costs. the costs happen anyway, so insuring people will lower costs, instead of the current broken system that bankrupts everyone while SOMEONE makes a profit *cough insurance ceo* unless you want to kill all the poor people by having them lie down in front of walmart on black friday, deal with reality | ||
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#2
11-28-2013, 06:17 PM
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Saying "profits shouldn't drive health care" is like saying "profits shouldn't drive food distribution". Ask the Cubans or Soviets or North Koreans how well it works to remove all profits from the market for food. Profit is a fantastic motivator as long as there aren't all kinds of other perverse manipulations in the market. In a free market, the drive for profit means containing costs and reducing price so as to make your service is affordable for as many people as possible. But we have a market where the price of health care is hidden for the vast majority of the consumers, so health care providers have no reason to contain costs. Even if you were paying them an amount that was 0 profit, we'd still spend more than any other country on health care. And that's because we have a system where all market discipline to reduce costs have been removed. And as we can see, such a system leads to higher costs than even a fully government run system.
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#3
11-28-2013, 06:30 PM
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You can grow your own food. Its hard to operate on your own heart.
Back to the drawing board! | ||
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11-28-2013, 06:37 PM
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#5
11-28-2013, 06:40 PM
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about as logical as comparing food distribution to health care while implying that America will become a ghetto ..
you use the term Soviets though so i guess you're still fightin them russians? FOR KING AND COUNTRY!!! stay in school brew | ||
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#6
11-28-2013, 06:42 PM
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Profit is a good thing in a business. North Koreans are starving. = I can't have healthcare?
Healthcare shouldn't be a business. Doctors don't treat you because they get paid. They take an oath. I doubt you even believe your own arguments because they are so .... far fetched and based on total opinion... the costs are hidden so how do you know it will be more??? LOL gawd | ||
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#7
11-28-2013, 06:50 PM
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Cowards, the lot of you. Afraid of what someone tells you might happen, that can't happen.
Cowardice. | ||
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#8
11-28-2013, 08:00 PM
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Yea, someone on a message board is gonna sort this out. Ok Hero.
I'm far from an idiot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but we both argue what over what other people should do with their lives, so ill concede the point if you admit to sharing my company in the idiotbox. I didn't say we were in a crisis. I said anyone who is against healthcare for everyone is a coward, and that all the arguments against are spurious and regurgitated. You must be high, tis true | ||
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#9
11-28-2013, 08:03 PM
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When it comes down to it, people are actively against improving their own situation.
its bizarre but it happens. the rest of us will help you on your way to freedom. | ||
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#10
11-28-2013, 08:06 PM
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People always get healthcare. Thats not the issue. Its the costs that are profit oriented that CAN be cut and not doing so, and arguing against your own interests, is wierd... maybe ur mentally ill, but hey we'll cover that soon
anyone who doesnt see this is more retarded than me | ||
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