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Old 11-15-2013, 03:29 PM
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That's because we were created in God's image and given dominion of the Earth. This is also why we are the only creature capable of unraveling the mysteries of the Universe and can understand the Universal language with which it was built. Math. Why then, if evolution is true, is no other creature on Earth evolving to our level of understanding? There is no creature even remotely close to what we are capable of. If evolution is such a slow gradual process, why the unbelievably drastic leap between humans and everything else?
These retarded questions indicate a severe deficit in your understanding of biology and evolution. Educate yourself before you ask people to waste their time answering your dipshit questions.

Conceptually, it's all very simple: If you refuse to believe life or the universe could not arise by itself, and choose instead to believe it was the work of a creator, you must ask yourself: Then who created the creator?

If your answer is: The creator created himself, or that he always existed, then why not skip a step and say the universe created itself, or the universe always existed?

Are they not equally absurd, or equally sensible? How can you try to use one to discredit the other?

The meaningful difference is, people don't generally make claims about a non-creator origin of the universe without evidence, and they are willing to rethink their theories in light of new evidence.

All you've got supporting your claim is a legacy of dipshit mythology, poor logic, and a criminal misunderstanding of the scientific method.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:10 PM
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These retarded questions indicate a severe deficit in your understanding of biology and evolution. Educate yourself before you ask people to waste their time answering your dipshit questions.
Yep retarded questions that you can't and don't even try to refute and instead resort to ad hominems. Typical atheist behavior.

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Conceptually, it's all very simple: If you refuse to believe life or the universe could not arise by itself, and choose instead to believe it was the work of a creator, you must ask yourself: Then who created the creator?

If your answer is: The creator created himself, or that he always existed, then why not skip a step and say the universe created itself, or the universe always existed?
Easy, because inanimate matter cannot think. Information can only come from intelligence. There is no other known source from which information can originate. The laws that govern the Universe is all information. The code found within DNA is information. It's far more believable that an intelligent being created everything rather than...nothing created itself...out of nothing...for no reason and without any apparent cause.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:22 PM
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Yep retarded questions that you can't and don't even try to refute and instead resort to ad hominems. Typical atheist behavior.
Go back to your first response to my comments and talk more about ad hominems, pot.

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Easy, because inanimate matter cannot think. Information can only come from intelligence. There is no other known source from which information can originate.
Right, and no known intelligence that doesn't reside in a brain. Where is God's brain pray tell?

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The laws that govern the Universe is all information. The code found within DNA is information. It's far more believable that an intelligent being created everything rather than...nothing created itself...out of nothing...for no reason and without any apparent cause.
You are using the Appeal to Incredulity logical fallacy - just because you an't imagine it, it can't possibly be true. Pretty arrogant.

Here's the simplification of how something can come from nothing. Imagine a field of dirt, containing "nothing" for the purposes of our illustration. Now, dig a hole. You have now created a pile of dirt, and a hole. Both somethings, that have come from nothing. Ergo, something from nothing. Physicists have demonstrated that the same thing could have happened at the universal level.

Besides that, you've been asked already, if "nothing created itself...out of nothing...for no reason and without any apparent cause" where did God come from?

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Old 11-15-2013, 09:22 PM
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Easy, because inanimate matter cannot think. Information can only come from intelligence. There is no other known source from which information can originate. The laws that govern the Universe is all information. The code found within DNA is information. It's far more believable that an intelligent being created everything rather than...nothing created itself...out of nothing...for no reason and without any apparent cause.
This is retarded. You're avoiding the question.

What created the intelligent being?

If he created himself or always existed, that is just as absurd / sensible as the universe creating itself or always existing, and you can simply skip a step and say the universe always existed.

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Correct arguments can only come from Lune. See? I can make up bullshit concepts too.
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:33 PM
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Educate yourself before you ask people to waste their time answering your dipshit questions.
Really, there's no point in arguing with someone as dumb as the OP, I'm arguing to educate all the other people who might be listening in and doubting this crock of crap is true...

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:35 PM
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Really, there's no point in arguing with someone as dumb as the OP, I'm arguing to educate all the other people who might be listening in and doubting this crock of crap is true...

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OP is probably smarter than 98% of everyone on these forums including you
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:08 PM
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Look up "Non sequitur". You only get a pass on my righteous rage because I like your sig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:09 PM
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monkey got tail I aint no monkey

I dont believe in tailbones either. if you had a tailbone you would have a tail
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Old 11-15-2013, 04:27 PM
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monkey got tail I aint no monkey

I dont believe in tailbones either. if you had a tailbone you would have a tail
Uhm....

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Are you seriously unable to use google? Try this... http://bit.ly/178okEg

You have more information at your fingertips than anyone in the history of mankind, use it!

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Old 11-15-2013, 04:30 PM
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Uhm....

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Are you seriously unable to use google? Try this... http://bit.ly/178okEg

You have more information at your fingertips than anyone in the history of mankind, use it!

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Found the problem. He probably thinks everything he finds here http://www.conservapedia.com/Main_Page is factual.


Biblical creationists (such as Gary E. Parker (creationist pastor)[2][3] see most of the fossil record as a record of the burial of creatures during Noah's Flood, wherein the creatures dwelling on the seafloor were buried first, then other marine creatures, amphibians, slow-moving reptiles, faster-moving mammals and birds, and finally, humans, the most able to escape the floodwaters the longest.

Atheistic paleontologists[4], geologists and evolutionists believe that the fossil record is a record of the evolution of life on Earth, with the oldest fossils, those of the earliest and simplest creatures, being at the base of the fossil record, and more recent and more advanced creatures higher up. This assumes no folding or bending of the geological strata.


Those fucking atheists and their sciencesssss@!
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