T99 and Item Loot Poll

[Tikku82]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item loot = literally half the server rolls Druids and Wizards and port around naked looking for easy ganks. The other half of the server zone plugs instantly when PvP that isn't overwhelmingly in their favor goes down. Server is more dead than Red within months.

To be blunt, "for science" is a stupid fucking attitude. I get that it's nilbog's box to play with, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. It's like if Wal-Mart ran a special where half the customers got their items for free and the other half got stabbed in the face by the cashier. Who the fuck is gonna shop there?

If nilbog wants a Teams server with item loot, that's his prerogative, but any type of item loot is going to turn away a ton of potential players right off the bat. The server would only reach a fraction of its potential. It seems very short-sighted to go to the trouble of making a new server only to cripple it with item loot, which is one of the most universally unpopular features in EQ. There is a reason that item loot debuted on RZ but was never implemented on the later PvP servers. It's just about the worst feature possible in a game that is all about acquiring gear.

Imagine if one of your items was randomly deleted each time you died in PvE? Would anyone clamor to play on that ruleset? Of course not. It would be fucking retarded.

And it's no less stupid to lose items in PvP. All it does is encourage extremely lame tactics and running away. Item loot turns a PvP server into a gank and run server.

Have to agree. While item loot may sound cool for some, the majority dislikes it. New server would never get high population and would soon be as or even more dead that cuurent Red. With coin loot only like SZ was it could be wonderful server. Item loot would kill it for the masses. DONT do it!

People will just avoid pvp at all costs. Thats the purpose of pvp server? No. More pvp action the better.

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item loot = literally half the server rolls Druids and Wizards and port around naked looking for easy ganks. The other half of the server zone plugs instantly when PvP that isn't overwhelmingly in their favor goes down. Server is more dead than Red within months.

To be blunt, "for science" is a stupid fucking attitude. I get that it's nilbog's box to play with, but that doesn't make it any less stupid. It's like if Wal-Mart ran a special where half the customers got their items for free and the other half got stabbed in the face by the cashier. Who the fuck is gonna shop there?

If nilbog wants a Teams server with item loot, that's his prerogative, but any type of item loot is going to turn away a ton of potential players right off the bat. The server would only reach a fraction of its potential. It seems very short-sighted to go to the trouble of making a new server only to cripple it with item loot, which is one of the most universally unpopular features in EQ. There is a reason that item loot debuted on RZ but was never implemented on the later PvP servers. It's just about the worst feature possible in a game that is all about acquiring gear.

Imagine if one of your items was randomly deleted each time you died in PvE? Would anyone clamor to play on that ruleset? Of course not. It would be fucking retarded.

And it's no less stupid to lose items in PvP. All it does is encourage extremely lame tactics and running away. Item loot turns a PvP server into a gank and run server.

Have fun on your new server gais! I wont be see'ing you there looks like

[Lowlife]

w/e man bring it

[SamwiseRed]

if its not gonna be classic just release it now so we can start the grief.

[Kelsar]

highly recommend the following:
1. full coin loot
2. Ear (turn in for corpse summon pots)
3. one item (not primary/secondary/bp/legs)
4. All bags' content need to be displayed and lootable (prevents people from ninja bagging)

[Layne]

The amount of time it takes to get a rare item in this game vs getting ganked by a group of naked wizards is why item loot sucks for a healthy population.

[Elspeth]

item loot = server failure

[Elderan]

There are 3 things which can kill this new server..

Allow training
Allow no pvp range limit
Allow item loot

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Elderan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are 3 things which can kill this new server..

Allow training
Allow no pvp range limit
Allow item loot

good news for you tho right?

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by SamwiseRed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

good news for you tho right?

Pretty much guarantees teams will merge into red...

So yes, good for me.