Custom teams

[liveitup1216]

Vex ruleset looks most legit. Vex>SZ>>>>>Blue99>Red99 on the PvP scale.

[Lowlife]

Giving Wood Elf Warriors 150 base STA isn't the solution.

[runlvlzero]

Originally Posted by Lowlife [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Giving Wood Elf Warriors 150 base STA isn't the solution.

But it sure would make the ogres mad )

[Sixsixsix]

How will we deal with a similar situation then, if at all? How could we prevent the team lopsidedness if one side starts to roll?

[Chronoburn]

Originally Posted by Sixsixsix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How will we deal with a similar situation then, if at all? How could we prevent the team lopsidedness if one side starts to roll?

I'm not sure there is a clear solution because there will always be a leading team but one could hope that competition is close enough to prevent lopsidedness.

The point I'm trying to get across is that evil team may not need any changes at all.

Assuming a SZ like rule set

[Lowlife]

Evil will never have a shortage of players even if denied bards. Look at how many fucking SK twinks are being rolled on Red atm. Its the good and neutral teams that need help.

Make neutral the only team with bards, rangers and druids but deny them monks and shamen, necros and SKs

give good barb shamen, dwarf paladins, human monks etc a well rounded selection of classes

[Vexenu]

Originally Posted by Lowlife [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Evil will never have a shortage of players even if denied bards. Look at how many fucking SK twinks are being rolled on Red atm. Its the good and neutral teams that need help.

Make neutral the only team with bards, rangers and druids but deny them monks and shamen, necros and SKs

give good barb shamen, dwarf paladins, human monks etc a well rounded selection of classes

So basically, you propose:

Evil team has no bards.
Neutral team has no feign death classes and no Shamans.
Good team has no bards.

So you fuck over the Good team, the weakest team, exactly like you do the Evil team by giving them no Bards. And the Neutral team has no buffs or pulling capability.

So you basically don't want any faction to be able to raid? Have you even thought this through? I don't think you have. I'll tell you what would happen under these rules: endgame guilds would all roll Neutral for Bards, then make Good or Evil sub-guilds to do their pulling with Monks and SKs, with Cleric and Shaman tag alongs to keep them alive. Depending on how much intra-team competition they got, they'd also PK their fellow Neutrals with their sub-guilds to cockblock them.

By restricting core raiding classes, you basically just necessitate cross-teaming, even on a hard-coded server. It would become a mess and turn the server into a joke very quickly.

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say that people haven't thought their the implications of their custom rulesets nearly as much as the EQ Devs did when devising the SZ deity-based teams, and this is why using a ruleset based on SZ is the best option by far for one major reason: it is a known entity. And being known, we know its weaknesses, and can correct them proactively with minor tweaks that are largely behind the scenes.

[Lowlife]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Have you even thought this through?

No. I'm just shitting things out on the board to foster conversation.

[SamwiseRed]

Originally Posted by Vexenu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is exactly what I'm talking about when I say that people haven't thought their the implications of their custom rulesets nearly as much as the EQ Devs did when devising the SZ deity-based teams, and this is why using a ruleset based on SZ is the best option by far for one major reason: it is a known entity. And being known, we know its weaknesses, and can correct them proactively with minor tweaks that are largely behind the scenes.

I hate to be rude but damn these guys are pissing me off with their custom (and retarded) ideas. My only hope is Nilbog at this point. I have faith he will keep it classic.

Either that or eventually they will come to the same conclusion Verant Devs did years ago.

[SamwiseRed]

anyone using population as an arguement is kinda dumb. SZ came out then Luclin. OFC the pop died, everyone left after manaburn and other bs luclin brought us. had SZ been around at launch, no doubt it would have been the biggest server.