Server Raid Rules - New and Improved

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Atern [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If there is anything we've learned from all the attempts to make raid rules that please everyone, it's that people (especially those raiding on this server) are douche bags.

There are plenty of us who aren't douchbags.

Regarding Fear/CT: Cazic and Draco were killed on Sunday using these new raid rules and everything was fine. Three guilds were involved with very minimal drama. When the other guilds were ready and wanted to engage we gave them their space, and they did the same for us when we had our attempt.

[Olorin]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are plenty of us who aren't douchbags.

Regarding Fear/CT: Cazic and Draco were killed on Sunday using these new raid rules and everything was fine. Three guilds were involved with very minimal drama. When the other guilds were ready and wanted to engage we gave them their space, and they did the same for us when we had our attempt.

Except for the one one time Divinity trained the temple on WI -- unfortunately I dont have fraps installed which seems to be the only thing that counts ...

[Skope]

Originally Posted by Olorin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the one one time Divinity trained the temple on WI -- unfortunately I dont have fraps installed which seems to be the only thing that counts ...

OOOOokkaay...

Let's keep the RnF to the RnF please, particularly if you're going to spew flat-out lies. The enchanter made a mistake and walked to your camp instead of ours, but we had a rogue guide him back and neither one had any aggro at all, neither died and neither dropped below 100% health the entire time. No, it wasn't a train and please delete these posts.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Olorin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Except for the one one time Divinity trained the temple on WI -- unfortunately I dont have fraps installed which seems to be the only thing that counts ...

I know what you are talking about, and we still aren't in agreement as to what happened. At the time the temple was pulled, we had an enchanter and rogue headed to our camp from the zone in. Lets say he did in fact agro the temple, he would have been killed instantly and the mobs would have pathed back. Truth is both people made it to our camp with 100% health and no adds on them, how would that have happened? I don't care what guild we are up against, we aren't going to flat out train you just for the sake of doing it.

If an enchanter and rogue were able to grab the temple, train your camp and make it back to ours without taking a single point of damage then they are the best trainers on the server.

[Skope]

Sorry, Otto, but this whole "FTE/FFA are classic, everything else is not" isn't true whatsoever. There were plenty of instances where GMs were involved and even had straight rotations enforced with hammers. Whether you agree with the rules or not is a separate issue. Frankly I think they're a huge improvement over what we had before, but there are nevertheless some issues that need to be worked out.

Such as:

is it 15+ in aggro range? or is it 1 in aggro range for pull and 14+ sitting in engagement area?

When a guild drops under 15 do the other guilds have a right to engage immediately?

Is kiting with just a couple of people waiting for raid to prep considered an engagement at all?


These are the types of things that the guilds themselves went over and ironed out (granted, there were flaws as well). I don't see why that shouldn't happen again.

[Molitoth]

I know this shit seems basic and it's not gonna happen between two guilds that hate each other but,

If a guild has assembled and is ready to engage.... guild B should let them have it.


If more than one guild assembles and is ready to engage at the same time, it should be up to those guilds to either /random for it, /dual for it, or come to a rotation agreement.

[Itchybottom]

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It's okay baby xorbier, the bunnies aren't angry anymore.

[xorbier]

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It's okay baby xorbier, the bunnies aren't angry anymore.

<3

Ya, that person was an idiot. I'm glad you and I have never made a mistake before!!

[Aarone]

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It's okay baby xorbier, the bunnies aren't angry anymore.

I think that this pic is more appropriate...

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We now return you to your regularly scheduled post.

[Skope]

You were always able to pull mobs from other islands, and island hopping was one of the major strategies of posky. It's not exactly an exploit, but could be seen as falling in line with the "douchebaggery."