Wiz vs Dru

[Amra]

Ya I was more referring to after 30 when soloing you kinda need sow. Before 30 I wasn't soloing much or if i did I didn't really need sow. I didn't play a wizard on live, but pre 30 wasn't really hard finding a group. I'm now 40 now and it is hard to find a group, but I think that is mostly due to there not being alot of 40-50 groups.

And all the good solo spots for 40-50 are camped to death.

[amishriot]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Druid's a lot more efficient at soloing and is slightly more desirable in groups. They get self-sow obviously at 14, so they're already a better 1st character....Think of not being able to do the jboots quest until like 29+...

If you have no preference, go druid. I went wizard specifically because I wanted the uniqueness of a wizard - and it's not easy, but it's what I want to do.

What are you talking about druids are more desirable in groups? Lol that is a joke...I cant think of a class I want less in a group. Their heals suck past low level, their nukes always are crap compared to DPS classes, their buffs are always crappier then anyone else who has a similar buff. Nobody who understands the mechanics of the game wants a druid in their group they simply Settle for them because they cant find a cleric or real DPS. As a soloer druids are better but in groups...id rather leave the spot empty

[Estu]

Originally Posted by amishriot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you talking about druids are more desirable in groups? Lol that is a joke...I cant think of a class I want less in a group. Their heals suck past low level, their nukes always are crap compared to DPS classes, their buffs are always crappier then anyone else who has a similar buff. Nobody who understands the mechanics of the game wants a druid in their group they simply Settle for them because they cant find a cleric or real DPS. As a soloer druids are better but in groups...id rather leave the spot empty

To be fair, wizards are pretty so-so in groups as well, since their nukes, though the best nukes, are still not very mana efficient. That translates to nice burst damage on tough mobs that you maybe wanna take down fast, but pretty low DPS otherwise since it takes so long to med up. I've seen the comparison made to mages often - the mage gets a slightly worse nuke but the huge added DPS of a pet. Thankfully for us wizards, a lot of people don't seem to know this or care that much (besides, mages are often busy tearing up shit solo anyway).

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by amishriot [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What are you talking about druids are more desirable in groups? Lol that is a joke...I cant think of a class I want less in a group. Their heals suck past low level, their nukes always are crap compared to DPS classes, their buffs are always crappier then anyone else who has a similar buff. Nobody who understands the mechanics of the game wants a druid in their group they simply Settle for them because they cant find a cleric or real DPS. As a soloer druids are better but in groups...id rather leave the spot empty

What you're missing is that EQ grouping is all about force multipliers and efficiency - Wizards have little. Druids have side heals, Regen, thorns, dots, and can nuke in a pinch. Wizards nuke and meditate, occasionally root-park (if theyre smart enough to wear hp/ac gear), stun casters, etc. They can nuke down dangerous mobs quickly, but that's effective in only a limited number of cases, and they need to med for 2-3 minutes (during which time they are basically useless exp sponges) afterward. At least druid's thorns, STR buff, and regen are still rolling during that time if they have to med for a bit...

Overall, in more cases, a druid is a better group option than a wizard. When casters abound or fights are based around killing really specific mobs (i.e. healer mobs), a wizard is better.


For anyone who wants to solo, druids do it better than wizards.

[Estu]

Originally Posted by Messianic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What you're missing is that EQ grouping is all about force multipliers and efficiency - Wizards have little. Druids have side heals, Regen, thorns, dots, and can nuke in a pinch. Wizards nuke and meditate, occasionally root-park (if theyre smart enough to wear hp/ac gear), stun casters, etc. They can nuke down dangerous mobs quickly, but that's effective in only a limited number of cases, and they need to med for 2-3 minutes (during which time they are basically useless exp sponges) afterward. At least druid's thorns, STR buff, and regen are still rolling during that time if they have to med for a bit...

Overall, in more cases, a druid is a better group option than a wizard. When casters abound or fights are based around killing really specific mobs (i.e. healer mobs), a wizard is better.


For anyone who wants to solo, druids do it better than wizards.

Just wondering - why is your main a wizard? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Messianic]

Originally Posted by Estu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just wondering - why is your main a wizard? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a 31 wizard, but he's not my main. My necro is 30, very close to 31 atm. He's pretty much my main. My wizard is just the first character i leveled seriously on this server, and has the coolest name among my characters (except maybe my druid named Bolt, who I barely want to play, but I am definitely holding onto that name).

I enjoy wizards in Kunark/Velious (i.e. when there are more than 2-3 places to quad kite from 29-50 and 50-60 that aren't incessantly camped), but they're very precise scalpels as opposed to the giant claymores that mages/necros are in classic.

[Messianic]

Now ive done the whole raiding 5+ days a week and it was fun for awhile but got very boring to me. So since i have another chance i figured i would spend most of my time doing old school quests and stuff that i missed out on cause well lol i was dumb and young when i first started. So i plan to do more questing, tradeskills, and twink item farming.

This tells me you want a druid if your only choices are dru/wiz.

However, if you really want to be an awesome farmer, go mage/necro/enc. Druid is pretty good at farming, tho.

[Taluvill]

I play the best druid there ever was (haha) and I say you should go a wizard.

Long term, their dps output will beat the druids by a longshot, and they get spells like manaburn. Very useful. At this point in time, there are 334859402859038503e23453 Druids out there, where as there are probably 1/4 as many wizards. You will get into raiding guilds easier, and your not "gear dependant" to do your job, because, unlike druids, if you run outta mana on a raid, no one is going to die from it (IE: no heals)

Play a wizard. Their solo capabilities are crazy (just like a druids. Quad kiting ftw) and they are much less abundant on P99, and although druids outclass them (same with mages) atm, they will get better through kunark and velious.

[Rhalous]

Well, it really depends on what you want to do, man. I see a lot of people giving their opinion, but when you say this:

Originally Posted by Glad8tor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Now ive done the whole raiding 5+ days a week and it was fun for awhile but got very boring to me. So since i have another chance i figured i would spend most of my time doing old school quests and stuff that i missed out on cause well lol i was dumb and young when i first started. So i plan to do more questing, tradeskills, and twink item farming.
EQfiend

It sounds like you want to play a druid. Your farming downtime will go way down as a druid with spells like regen. I play a wizard, but I chose it for raiding purposes. You will out farm a wizard. Some people will disagree with me, but when you consider the spell list druids get, the versatility is obvious. Now, if you are rolling with a buddy or something like that, a wizard could be pretty sweet.

[logiktrip]

I agree with rhalous, from your post it sounds like you want a druid. You'll have less downtime and better ability to farm for twinks.

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