auction tracker on wiki

[Lyra]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does everyone think the people that want the auction tracker gone are just trying to rip everyone off? Maybe we are trying to recreate our EC tunnel experience, I don't remember getting tells "wiki says that is worth X amount, so I will give you X amount" on live.
People rely on this information, because it has been handed to them for far too long.
It was not like this on Classic, stop fooling yourself.
Again, why do you feel you are entitled to know every price of every item without putting in ZERO effort to do so?
While we are at it can we please implement a mob tracker, that tells us the last time every single mob was spawned?

As an economist (cough) you should know the only thing determining price is supply / demand. If someone sends you a tell offering the wiki price and you don't want to take that price, you tell them no. If they can't find it elsewhere cheaper, they may come back to you and pay your asking. THAT is how it works.

Maybe you should put everyone on /ignore that might send you a tell bringing you back to 2013. Reminds me of the movie "Somewhere in Time". While "back in time" in 1912, he discovers a penny in his pocket with a mint date of 1979 and is pulled back to current time. Time travel didn't work for him, and it won't work for you.

[myriverse]

Originally Posted by Econ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why does everyone think the people that want the auction tracker gone are just trying to rip everyone off? Maybe we are trying to recreate our EC tunnel experience, I don't remember getting tells "wiki says that is worth X amount, so I will give you X amount" on live.
People rely on this information, because it has been handed to them for far too long.
It was not like this on Classic, stop fooling yourself.
Again, why do you feel you are entitled to know every price of every item without putting in ZERO effort to do so?
While we are at it can we please implement a mob tracker, that tells us the last time every single mob was spawned?

Your experience is wrong. Instead of "wiki," it was "Alla's." People didn't bitch about it; they just didn't buy.

[justin2090]

Originally Posted by myriverse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your experience is wrong. Instead of "wiki," it was "Alla's." People didn't bitch about it; they just didn't buy.

I guess the only way to compromise on this is to make wiki have p99 blue and p99 red prices mixed together. That way no one will know an accurate price just like allakhazam! Classic!

oh and just make it really classic mix some prices in from the other servers on eqemu. Has to be really really really inaccurate to experience that full classic sensation.

[justin2090]

Besides, friend A could sell friend B a fbss for 8k. Then friend B sell to friend C for 7k (etc etc). Now the price has dropped on wiki and they can buy all the ones selling for 7k, wait for market to go back up and sell for 12k. Using wiki to manipulate the price of something is not free market. Scammers gonna scam regardless.

[Ele]

Originally Posted by justin2090 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Besides, friend A could sell friend B a fbss for 8k. Then friend B sell to friend C for 7k (etc etc). Now the price has dropped on wiki and they can buy all the ones selling for 7k, wait for market to go back up and sell for 12k. Using wiki to manipulate the price of something is not free market. Scammers gonna scam regardless.

The wiki doesn't pick up the price actually paid. Only the text that people include in their /auction line which gets parsed into the database, and only from log files that people happen to upload.

People can auction WTS XYZ 7000p all day long when they actually sold XYZ for 3500p, but the auction tracker will list the price as 7000p.

[justin2090]

Originally Posted by Ele [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The wiki doesn't pick up the price actually paid. Only the text that people include in their /auction line which gets parsed into the database, and only from log files that people happen to upload.

People can auction WTS XYZ 7000p all day long when they actually sold XYZ for 3500p, but the auction tracker will list the price as 7000p.

Well that just makes it even easier to manipulate and it would only take 1 person to do it. Next time I make an alt, the gear i need will be cheap =D ... jk i wouldn't do that but you get my point here.

[Econ]

We have multiple resources to check the market prices of items. The wiki is not the authority on it, but people think it is. Furthermore, due to inflation, people cannot figure out that the ALL TIME AVERAGE PRICE is wrong, and people fail to see more current data as relevant.
I am all for the wiki data when it is referenced correctly.
Also, you people have it all backwards.EC tunnel traders do not make platinum from selling to other players at higher than market prices. Regardless if the wiki is there or not, profits will still be made. I just wanted to recreate my EQ classic experience like you guys do, is that so wrong of me?

[Econ]

I can't believe you are comparing the inaccurate price tracker of Allakhazam that combined all server's prices into one, to the data mining auction tracker.
Makes me lol, did you ever play live in 2000? How many tells did you get in EC saying "well Alakhazam has it listed at X amount.."

[Buma]

I don't think they should take it down. A lot of new players coming here as well as old returning players who are unaware of the prices use this. It also saves the headache of asking people in /ooc what it's worth with a price check (PC). Please don't take it away, we need it. Otherwise people will start to get ripped off. Some guy was telling us on vent that the only reason they want it down is so prices go up and they can make more money off RMT, which I hope is not the case at all.

[justin2090]

I don't want it down either cause it saves me time and effort of sitting in ec all night learning prices. I'm just arguing that it isn't classic. And it's not.