PVP Talks tonight decide Red99 fate

[Syft]

Adding resist coding without a wipe will be like cooking up the server in a frying pan and handing it to Nihilum as a tasty meal.

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[heartbrand]

Couple things. Lovely shit all over holocaust and holo didn't win any battles until he quit. Two holo lost for the same reason variance and all this shit is pointless, the vztz crowd doesn't appreciate leadership and argue about loot and don't care enough about dragons to ever contest. So you put on variance and you snipe a tunarian scimitar from innoruuk once every three months, that's saving the box? Cloak of flames can be ez farmed from ragefire who is up 24/7. You're not getting 30 people from opposition to do VP. Is variance helping you in velious when you'll need 60 for the dain? (TMO is wiping right now in beta with 60 to dain and dozekar sorry vztz people who said they could three group this stuff that won't be p99).

I don't get how variance which theoretically lets you watch some vox horns and dawnfires rot once every three months is bringing 300 people back to the server, especially when all these mobs will be up 24/7 in velious anyway, an expansion that without some sort of drastic change in the mentality of the opposition that they will get zero mobs in since you need 60 people following one leader.

[Bogart]

I heard adding a bunch of zones and spreading out a 100pop pvp server is going to make things better.

[abacab-winner]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Couple things. Lovely shit all over holocaust and holo didn't win any battles until he quit. Two holo lost for the same reason variance and all this shit is pointless, the vztz crowd doesn't appreciate leadership and argue about loot and don't care enough about dragons to ever contest. So you put on variance and you snipe a tunarian scimitar from innoruuk once every three months, that's saving the box? Cloak of flames can be ez farmed from ragefire who is up 24/7. You're not getting 30 people from opposition to do VP. Is variance helping you in velious when you'll need 60 for the dain? (TMO is wiping right now in beta with 60 to dain and dozekar sorry vztz people who said they could three group this stuff that won't be p99).

I don't get how variance which theoretically lets you watch some vox horns and dawnfires rot once every three months is bringing 300 people back to the server, especially when all these mobs will be up 24/7 in velious anyway, an expansion that without some sort of drastic change in the mentality of the opposition that they will get zero mobs in since you need 60 people following one leader.

Well Dain is 100% immune to spells, so you got to melee that 450k down.

Probably don't need 60 on to do Dain, you just can't have a fuckload of casters and only 5-6 rogues to do it proper.

[Elderan]

Originally Posted by abacab-winner [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Well Dain is 100% immune to spells, so you got to melee that 450k down.

Probably don't need 60 on to do Dain, you just can't have a fuckload of casters and only 5-6 rogues to do it proper.

30-34 People, 2 tanks, 6 rogues, 6 clerics should be plenty for My Dain.

[heartbrand]

It will help somewhat in that there's a lot of objectives small groups / guilds can accomplish on velious like armor farms / rings / shawls / vindi / ww dragons / Kunark content that will open up / fear golems / hate minis / etc., combined with the fact that you can use faction to your advantage for pvp purposes. Will this make box great? Of course not but it provides for alternate forms of play that don't exist currently, plus you'll start to see nihilum defections as people get geared and have no incentive to gear others anymore.

But yes box still flawed not disputing that.

[Lu|z Sect]

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[heartbrand]

Tru fact, current us treasury secretary is Orthodox Jew. Who would've thought? Hehehehhe. Kim tho y u mad, did madoff rape ur dads 401k or something?

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[Lu|z Sect]

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