Is the raid scene really that bad?

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just need more concise raiding rules and enforcement for them. Other than that no issues with raid scene on p99.

No, we need changes to the mechanics of how raid mobs spawn. It should be possible for players to compete, if not actually succeed, for raid mobs even if they only play 5 hours a week. My personal favorite is still tokens, but I would consider repops a huge improvement.

http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...d.php?t=117673

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just need more concise raiding rules and enforcement for them. Other than that no issues with raid scene on p99. I also wish training was outlawed from raiding as its just shitty and a waste of peoples time and it was never allowed by GMa on live despite the large number of players who think it was.


However I won't sit here and try to pretend cockblocking the server out of raid loot for 2+ years so you can sell it isn't just pure greed like some others will. I just can't think of any justification for stuff like that.

tass you forgot one thing whatever tmo do with his loot is his own problem. we killed it our members put his time to get it so whatever we choose to do is rigth while we dont break the rules the staff have.

no one need to buy from tmo or get their epics or bps or whatever , back in the day 95% of the p99 population didint even have what they had now.

or even the option to atleats buy his epic. now atleats u can buy a mq, not different from when guilds sold mqs of velious armour.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

tass you forgot one thing whatever tmo do with his loot is his own problem. we killed it our members put his time to get it so whatever we choose to do is rigth while we dont break the rules the staff have.

no one need to buy from tmo or get their epics or bps or whatever , back in the day 95% of the p99 population didint even have what they had now.

or even the option to atleats buy his epic. now atleats u can buy a mq, not different from when guilds sold mqs of velious armour.

Except that guilds had the option of farming their own armor or epics on live. That option is a lot less feasible on p99 for whatever reasons. I try to be polite with you dude but I seriously can't understand the logic behind your statements. To me, you really just make yourself look more greedy with each post.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both TMO and FE have fielded forces of 40+ ppl at one time or another. Usually TMO averages 30 to 40 while FE averages 20 to 30 on batphoned raids.


I just think the issue is really one guild has grown so big and powerful that they quite literally view themselves as above the rules. They respond to posts like this with "oh pixel welfare step your game up etcetc" when in reality most guilds would just be happy with an occasional attempt at mobs. The sense of entitlement to me is evident from their attitude towards rules, gms, players, and opposing guilds.

If you so much as threaten their chokehold on any mob besides maybe maestro, its all out flame war and smear campaign against you and your guild. The top guild on p99 has no interest in competition.

Quoting because my damn posts always end up at the last post of every page.


But, yeah.

[Ajkuhuun]

I'm not sure where folks got the idea we're trying to start a guild, it was more of an inquiry to help us decide what guild we're working toward and to that end, what to realistically expect when we get there. No master plan, just trying to get a real feel for the endgame of the server.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Ajkuhuun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure where folks got the idea we're trying to start a guild, it was more of an inquiry to help us decide what guild we're working toward and to that end, what to realistically expect when we get there. No master plan, just trying to get a real feel for the endgame of the server.

Understood but there is a post like this about 3 times a month. There are tons of people who feel the raiding scene needs fixing, and understabdably so. I just think when people make posts like this people on both sides of the argument tend to get really fired up about it.

[Ajkuhuun]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Understood but there is a post like this about 3 times a month. There are tons of people who feel the raiding scene needs fixing, and understabdably so. I just think when people make posts like this people on both sides of the argument tend to get really fired up about it.

Yeah was totally not the intention, to be frank, the alts we've been grouping with just made all of end game sound thoroughly depressing. Looking over the boards of course there's a lot of TMO vs everyone drama, really just hoped to get a more realistic idea of the endgame on p99. Honestly having a blast here, most of the folks we've met in game are stellar.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Ajkuhuun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not sure where folks got the idea we're trying to start a guild, it was more of an inquiry to help us decide what guild we're working toward and to that end, what to realistically expect when we get there. No master plan, just trying to get a real feel for the endgame of the server.

Doesn't matter if you're starting or joining, the end result will be the same depending on the guild's expectations.

Look at any posts from FE's point of view and you'll see the truth in what I posted.

Toward the end, TMO and IB had an extremely even take of targets per month (on average) while fighting each other. After IB left with most of their players, they took nearly half the hardcore people.

TMO: Large core group of dedicated raiders and large casual fluff numbers to take down anything at anytime.

FE: Small core group of dedicated raiders and enough casual fluff numbers to take down most targets at most times.

Every other guild is a large core of casual players with very few capable of being dedicated raiders.

[Tasslehofp99]

Both TMO and FE have fielded forces of 40+ ppl at one time or another. Usually TMO averages 30 to 40 while FE averages 20 to 30 on batphoned raids.


I just think the issue is really one guild has grown so big and powerful that they quite literally view themselves as above the rules. They respond to posts like this with "oh pixel welfare step your game up etcetc" when in reality most guilds would just be happy with an occasional attempt at mobs. The sense of entitlement to me is evident from their attitude towards rules, gms, players, and opposing guilds.

If you so much as threaten their chokehold on any mob besides maybe maestro, its all out flame war and smear campaign against you and your guild. The top guild on p99 has no interest in competition.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Both TMO and FE have fielded forces of 40+ ppl at one time or another. Usually TMO averages 30 to 40 while FE averages 20 to 30 on batphoned raids.


I just think the issue is really one guild has grown so big and powerful that they quite literally view themselves as above the rules. They respond to posts like this with "oh pixel welfare step your game up etcetc" when in reality most guilds would just be happy with an occasional attempt at mobs. The sense of entitlement to me is evident from their attitude towards rules, gms, players, and opposing guilds.

If you so much as threaten their chokehold on any mob besides maybe maestro, its all out flame war and smear campaign against you and your guild. The top guild on p99 has no interest in competition.

You must have forgotten the part where FE came on to the scene claiming to knock out TMO and that TMO better be ready, then FE started getting kills and talking more smack. Your guild brought it upon themselves to try and fill IB's shoes and it cost you.