Is the raid scene really that bad?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by fullmetalcoxman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raiding in P99= Camp a fully buffed raid force at whatever spawn you want to kill. Wait the 3 to 7(or more) days that it takes the mob to spawn. Track 24/7 so someone else doesn't get it. Log 40 people in and kill it. Then move to the next mob.

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. What you described is raiding Trakanon. None of the other raid mobs are basically anything like what you describe.

Originally Posted by contemptor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Faydedar, Sev, VS (though just less than 40 people)

I'm not TMO, but I have been getting their batphones for a couple months now. Guess what I've never seen on the batphone? "GET YOUR MAINS TO EJ/TD OMG SO WE CAN SOCK FAY/SEV!!!" There have been maybe 2-3 times when FE had a group sitting on VS spawn and TMO wanted to sock or at least have mains logged out in KC, but like I said, camping out at a raid mob with buffs is a trakanon thing.

People track, yes, but I bet track coverage is only like 50% for stuff like naggy, vox, maestro, tal, etc; far from 24/7 on every mob that is in window for all of every window. People log on 40 for trak or VS or good VP dragons, but not for the others I bet. People only log out a raid force for instant respond at maybe 1.5 of the nearly 20 raid targets.

Like I said. That description of "raiding" on p99 was only remotely accurate for 1 of the 18ish raid targets on the server.

[contemptor]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not TMO, but I have been getting their batphones for a couple months now. Guess what I've never seen on the batphone? "GET YOUR MAINS TO EJ/TD OMG SO WE CAN SOCK FAY/SEV!!!" There have been maybe 2-3 times when FE had a group sitting on VS spawn and TMO wanted to sock or at least have mains logged out in KC, but like I said, camping out at a raid mob with buffs is a trakanon thing.

People track, yes, but I bet track coverage is only like 50% for stuff like naggy, vox, maestro, tal, etc; far from 24/7 on every mob that is in window for all of every window. People log on 40 for trak or VS or good VP dragons, but not for the others I bet. People only log out a raid force for instant respond at maybe 1.5 of the nearly 20 raid targets.

Like I said. That description of "raiding" on p99 was only remotely accurate for 1 of the 18ish raid targets on the server.

50% is 48 hours of a 96 hour (pre-extension) window btw. That's significant, even if you understated at 50%. You don't actually raid these mobs; it's a different feeling when you decide how much you are going to pay TMO for their rots when you respond to their batphone rather than competing for a mob btw. That being said, it's to each their own. I have no problem with the way you play the game. You just have a different perspective.

[Wotsirb401]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No. What you described is raiding Trakanon. None of the other raid mobs are basically anything like what you describe.

Nope, he is pretty much right. Speaking from doing it currently that is essentially what you do. Some mobs are a bit different but not really. You ideally want 2 level 60's so you can move them all over the globe, while you make an alt to play to pass the time

[Arteker]

every time ir ead this kind of post i remember how fucking rare in kunark to see most of the epics.

being in solusek ro server and just 4 wizard epics done , 2 paladins with epic, 1 ranger with dual epic, shamans (few shamans then)..................


i would realy love to people to be honest and show some kind of proof they had their epics in kunark.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by fullmetalcoxman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Raiding in P99= Camp a fully buffed raid force at whatever spawn you want to kill. Wait the 3 to 7(or more) days that it takes the mob to spawn. Track 24/7 so someone else doesn't get it. Log 40 people in and kill it. Then move to the next mob.

If that sounds like fun to you, grind to 60 and join TMO.

If that doesn't sound like fun to you, join whoever you want and accept that you might not see your epic for a long time.

Your question was answered on the first page, although he mildly exaggerated the amount of camping toons. The vast majority of the posts in this thread have been spot on, although obviously from different viewpoints.

[Splorf22]

Originally Posted by labmonkey42 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

THIS! EXACTLY THIS! I am so sick of all the fucking casuals crying all the time that TMO is the devil for having determination and organization.

I feel a lot of people incorrectly attribute this position to me. I don't hate TMO for having a bunch of people that are willing to spend 25 hours a week raiding/tracking. I hate the retarded variance system makes this necessary.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel a lot of people incorrectly attribute this position to me. I don't hate TMO for having a bunch of people that are willing to spend 25 hours a week raiding/tracking. I hate the retarded variance system makes this necessary.

i guess they put it in game due to old experiences with euro guilds.

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I feel a lot of people incorrectly attribute this position to me. I don't hate TMO for having a bunch of people that are willing to spend 25 hours a week raiding/tracking. I hate the retarded variance system makes this necessary.

^ Pretty much this. Those random server resets make it feel like live. You just couldn't get everything when everyone knew everything was going to spawn all at once. There was a need to prioritize. Stuff would slip though the cracks smaller guilds could get stuff.

[Zhaige]

Can anyone explain to me why rotations haven't been setup? If it is on a variance timer, give the guild two hours before it becomes free for all.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by Zhaige [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can anyone explain to me why rotations haven't been setup? If it is on a variance timer, give the guild two hours before it becomes free for all.

rotations are not classic mechanics but players made options based in respect.