Discussion on R99 vs VZTZ **POSTPONED**

[runlvlzero]

Break it off over here folks http://www.project1999.org/forums/sh...28#post1082728

P.S. Damn you all flooding this post so hard with 5 posts in 30 seconds its not even funny...

[runlvlzero]

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Need an intervention here IMO

[Malevz]

Didn't read thread, never played vztz, p1999 was my first emu.

I see two issues:

1. Resists.
I would be surprised to hear anyone argue resists are balanced, you only need to look at the number of wizards in game lately to see this is not true. People gravitate to the easiest classes for pvp. Anyway, fix this.

2. OOC
I don't mind it, I turn it off, sometimes I ooc trolls and don't even open the ooc window to see how it goes. Not all people feel this way. I like the server and I try to get as many people as I can to play. However I hear the same talk of all the drama and shit talk in ooc make the environment toxic. There is actual hate and anger in ooc, and it drives people from the server. It's not a good first impression.

Make auction global, ooc zone wide, and throttle auction so you can use it once every 15-20 minutes. Don't scare away good new players because a small number of idiots need attention and don't know they are playing a game.

[Sirken]

Originally Posted by heartbrand [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the issue bro, 3-4 competing guilds isn't classic.

it was on my server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (Defiant vs 12 Prophets vs Xanit K'Ven) and if it was really that rare of a thing, then i feel bad for a lot of you. 3 or more guilds that are able to compete with each other is imo the best thing for a server. even just 2 teams in my opinion gets stale and boring pretty quickly.

[heartbrand]

Originally Posted by Sirken [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it was on my server [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] (Defiant vs 12 Prophets vs Xanit K'Ven) and if it was really that rare of a thing, then i feel bad for a lot of you. 3 or more guilds that are able to compete with each other is imo the best thing for a server. even just 2 teams in my opinion gets stale and boring pretty quickly.

On pve servers, you were competing against yourself in a top guild to down end game content because there were always new expacs on the horizon, and you often wouldn't finish the current expansion until right around when the next one launched, so it wasn't "boring."

As to Smedy's essay, I challenge you to explain to me how variance will help the competition when they will require ranger/monk alts in all raid mob zones 24/7 with the ability to bat phone 20+ people on @ at any time of day to kill the mob.

[heals4reals]

Sirken feels bad for u son

[Nirgon]

Do not compare Nihilum to TMO.

Nihilum wouldn't dethrone TMO on blue, not even close =).

Kringe beat Nihilum and was then in turn beaten by flipping the server switch a few times.

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Do not compare Nihilum to TMO.

Nihilum wouldn't dethrone TMO on blue, not even close =).

Kringe beat Nihilum and was then in turn beaten by flipping the server switch a few times.

Difference between nihilum and tmo, is that nihilum raids with the bare minimum most of the time. The only reason they ever have more than 30 players is because its required for Hoshkar, who is the key to the rest of VP. If it wasn't for hoshkar, you'd probably never see more than 20-30 nihilum on at any given time, and the need to recruit to replace players who quit would be minimal.

That said, the neckbeard to casual ratio in nihilum far exceeds that of tmo.

[heals4reals]

Originally Posted by Dullah [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Difference between nihilum and tmo, is that nihilum raids with the bare minimum most of the time. The only reason they ever have more than 30 players is because its required for Hoshkar, who is the key to the rest of VP. If it wasn't for hoshkar, you'd probably never see more than 20-30 nihilum on at any given time, and the need to recruit to replace players who quit would be minimal.

That said, the neckbeard to casual ratio in nihilum far exceeds that of tmo.

This is my favorite thing nihilum says, "we raid w 20 come atk us"...

Until we do and you batphone +20

Then we get the +20 the next time and you batphone and dump guild bank for another +20

Then we still win the mob and server resets at noon.

heheh

[Dullah]

Originally Posted by heals4reals [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is my favorite thing nihilum says, "we raid w 20 come atk us"...

Until we do and you batphone +20

Then we get the +20 the next time and you batphone and dump guild bank for another +20

Then we still win the mob and server resets at noon.

heheh

Not sure what this means in engrish, but it sounds like you might be upset at getting outplayed.