A question to everyone not in TMO/IB.....

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Nirgon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) I'm amazed they aren't burned out by it, I would be.

2) Again, the position they earned.

You guys complaining wouldn't have been able to contest IB either. They were able to, whether it was at the end of their reign or whatever.. that can stay out of this. But at no point could the people complaining have beaten IB at this either.

It's not an argument, I'm stating a fact that reflects reality. You don't like it, if I was you I wouldn't either. That's life pal. Not everyone gets to be #1, and #1 doesn't always like to share. Further before they were #1, no one really shared with them either.

How would you like a few months or a year after your guild beat TMO, they all quit (for whatever reason) that some other group came along with half or a quarter of the time investment and asked for a calendar? Easy to say you'd support it and I don't think you or your leadership would given what it would take to beat them.

And this is why threads like this show up, because there is something fundamentally wrong with the rules on this server and why everyone appeals to the staff to try and get things changed. The mentality that in order to be #1 you have to turn a game on a hobby server into a job with more on call hours than a fireman is unhealthy and stupid. I have a vague memory of reading posts by even Alarti back before TMO was on top complaining about all the things people are complaining about now.

[Ravager]

Also, I agree that they earned it then. But they are certainly not earning it now. The circumstances that they faced then are far and away different than the ones others face now.

[Nirgon]

I agree they aren't earning it now, its easy for them. They're enjoying the fruits of their efforts. They have the right people and a system that works.

A batphone is a step in the right direction, so is tracking.

In fact, all you have to do is copy them but just be less burnt out and more motivated (read: you need the drops more).

If you keep a few months of that going, they will have to put pressure on their own members and maybe some will just wash out because they didn't sign up for the hard camps and mob contesting.

Even if they don't quit entirely? Worst case scenario? You get maybe even 40% of the mobs.

[Nirgon]

Personally, I think that's why that was created as well.

But people want to stay up till 6am on a work day farming pixels for some reason. No one wants to stay up watching this (referee) for no pixel gain.

I want to do neither, like most normal people.

[Nirgon]

I imagine they'd go over to EQMac if that happened. Or another game.

[Ruenaros]

wtb simulated maintenance day repops.... one guy can't login 5 parked toons simultaneously here (at least not easily).

[Sarius]

I would like to see how many people at the top have IP exemptions. Of those, I wonder how many are actually valid.

[Waedawen]

Originally Posted by Bantam 1 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a lot of intelligent adults out there posting (in a few threads I read). So a thought popped in my mind.... what are all your true priorities in terms of end game? Do any of your guilds have people who could actually raid if given the chance?


Why doesn't each guild who really wants the end game to open up dedicate a group of their more hardcore types and create an alliance of sorts....

And just beat TMO at their own game? or IB or whoever? Anyone who has raided knows as soon as the winds turn a little.... shit goes down.

Instead of arguing about rules... how about fighting back? Nothing they can do can't be done by you.


TDLR - create a massive alliance zerg and start taking raid mobs. TMO trains you? Train them back... they train you harder? You guys have intelligent folks....fight back.

Because the fact of creating a massive alliance of zerging players is FUCKING. STUPID.