Players will always compete for raid mobs; the point of contention is the rules

[kenzar]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Outlawing training in VP would make the game more close to what was intended. I don't want to change any ground breaking rules. My thing is this: People have justified GM sanctioned training being allowed in VP because it was a "Non-CSR" zone on live. "Non-CSR" did not mean training was allowed on live, and VP was not the only zone with this tag during this era on EQlive. Plane of Hate/Fear/Sky were also labeled as such, so if this reason is given to justify training in VP, then why not use it to allow training in those zones as well?

Rogean already explained to you that this is not the reason VP is a train-friendly zone.

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many times do I have to tell you that our No CSR policy is NOT related to live? Is there some sort of brain block going on here?

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by Tasslehofp99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Outlawing training in VP would make the game more close to what was intended. I don't want to change any ground breaking rules. My thing is this: People have justified GM sanctioned training being allowed in VP because it was a "Non-CSR" zone on live. "Non-CSR" did not mean training was allowed on live, and VP was not the only zone with this tag during this era on EQlive. Plane of Hate/Fear/Sky were also labeled as such, so if this reason is given to justify training in VP, then why not use it to allow training in those zones as well?


For those of us who know how live went, we know training was never allowed. The rules on p99 weren't derived from any policies put into place by Live EQ CSR staff, but fabricated to fit the conditions of the raiding scene on p99. I just don't see why training is allowed, since it wasn't on live. That's just me though, and about 150 other people so far who have voted on my poll. I think its time to reconsider these rules and maybe come up with a new rule set which better fosters competition instead of hindering it like the current rules.

Originally Posted by kenzar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogean already explained to you that this is not the reason VP is a train-friendly zone.

You obviously didn't read the second portion of my post bro!

[kylok]

Classic is good, I like classic. If I recall correctly people had issues with that raid scene when it was classic.

[Buellen]

[QUOTE=.



The other point that is driving me nuts is the staff's relative indifference to the whole business. We were promised simultaneous repops almost a YEAR ago. I know Rogean has a job that sucks up his time. I know Nilbog looks at this as the beta server and mostly cares about replicating classic Everquest. I know Sirken just wants to see a bunch of people fight over virtual pixels for some reason. So get another programmer.

.[/QUOTE]


no offense but maybe some folks need to step back and breath. WE <including myself> are not entitled to anything from server or its staff. WE play and enjoy or dislike the server in its current form. that is all. Even if it take them 5 years to get it right so be it.


I enjoy this server immensely yes their are aspect that annoy me but if ever I get to point where I am not happy then I will take a break and come back later.

Finally Remember LIFE is always GREATER than this game.


Garue 47th half elf warrior follower of karana/ Buskier 34th Human Cleric Follower Rodcet NIFE


my 2 cents.

[kylok]

Agreeing with Tattersail and the JIT on this one. I believe the No CSR policy is related to the staff simply not having the time to deal with VP related issues.

[Langrisser]

so if you get your own clear evidence of fraps and logs and do all the work, you may actually have evidence that can be reviewed and action taken at leisure and discretion ... sounds like the way to go.

make it 1080p with directors commentary and checksums for all files and now go kill self

[kylok]

There's no "fixing" the raid scene because it isn't broken - some people just don't like it. There will always be some who are happy or unhappy with any given situation. There's no way to make everyone happy.

[kylok]

If anything FTE helps non zerg guilds... else a zerg guild will KS you every time... as they have... zerg dps....

[Kagatob]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything FTE helps non zerg guilds... else a zerg guild will KS you every time... as they have... zerg dps....

That's what the zerg guilds want you to think so they can keep a large mobile force and only have to pay a single person to keep an eye on a zone as opposed to having to keep an entire raid force stationed at the site if they want it.

It's all about profit and loss, they'd still be "on top" of the raid scene without FTE, but they'd have to work even harder for it... something they don't want to do, even though they are the first ones to talk about how your only problem isn't being dedicated enough yourself.

[HeallunRumblebelly]

Originally Posted by kylok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything FTE helps non zerg guilds... else a zerg guild will KS you every time... as they have... zerg dps....

well, no, it actually just makes 6 wizards the best raiders in the game :P nuke n scoot.