Why is training allowed on p99 in veeshan's peak? (poll asking your opinion)

[Tasslehofp99]

I personally think that racing to a vp mob while avoiding training your competition and coming out on top in a fair mobilization/fte contest is a way bigger indicator of skill than who has 20 training classes to dedicate to keeping your raid wiped being the automatic winner.

[Tasslehofp99]

Bump cmon people this has gone on long enough.

Outlaw training as it was on live or follow through with the perversion of the rules followed on live and allow training in ALL non-csr zones listed in the everquest rule book. This includes hate/fear/sky.


I just think there has to be some kind of consistency here, is training allowed in vp because non csr allows for it? if so..then why this same thought process not taken into consideration concerning other classically non-csr zones?

[radditsu]

more people would play if rules were consistent. Means more donations. which means more server hardware. which means better server. It is only beneficial. If you want to be jerks, roll red.

[Enygma]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

more people would play if rules were consistent. Means more donations. which means more server hardware. which means better server. It is only beneficial. If you want to be jerks, roll red.

I see over 1000 players online... either theres a lot of boxers because of the long weekend trying to eat all the double exp possible or...

The server is thriving.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Enygma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I see over 1000 players online... either theres a lot of boxers because of the long weekend trying to eat all the double exp possible or...

The server is thriving.

Imagine a server server with 2k pop. Which was the range of a server on live.

Please tmo. Continue to be trolls and impede discussion like always.

[Enygma]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine a server server with 2k pop. Which was the range of a server on live.

Please tmo. Continue to be trolls and impede discussion like always.

Imagine if expansions were released on at the proper time line... aka velious was released / kunark hadn't been out for 3 years... If you remember when kunark released we had a peak of over 1500 people iirc. Now imagine if in 9 months of that Velious released....

I bet p99 would surpass that population of a live server... given that there is only 1 server to play on instead of numerous servers to chose from if you were sad you couldn't get into the top guild and wanted to try your luck on another one / transfer servers etc.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Enygma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Imagine if expansions were released on at the proper time line... aka velious was released / kunark hadn't been out for 3 years... If you remember when kunark released we had a peak of over 1500 people iirc. Now imagine if in 9 months of that Velious released....

I bet p99 would surpass that population of a live server... given that there is only 1 server to play on instead of numerous servers to chose from if you were sad you couldn't get into the top guild and wanted to try your luck on another one / transfer servers etc.

I agree completely. All the more reason to be civil unyil velious. Stagnation and bad blood is a cornerstone to the dilemma

[zanderklocke]

Voted no because I don't trust people who have the ability to wake the sleeper based on their zerg force.

[Tasslehofp99]

Originally Posted by zanderklocke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Voted no because I don't trust people who have the ability to wake the sleeper based on their zerg force.

Obviously any rule changes would be accompanied by new stipulations regarding each specific situation.

Regarding the sleeper though, I think this situation warrants another discussion.
One which has to do with the community of p99 and player enforced play nice policies.
If one guild is going to wake the sleeper then I hate to say it but that is classic. Training was never allowed though and gm sanctioned training in any zone should be done away with. If not then training should be allowed in all zones labeled non csr according to the rulebook, which includes sky/hate/fear as well.

Just looking for either a consistent interpretation of the rules, or a classic interpretation of the rules. If non csr means training then you cant pick and choose which zones were non csr...that info is immortalized in the rulebooks of everquest and therefore leaves very little room for interpretation.

[Rogean]

You seem to think that our "No CSR" rule is related to SOE's "No Guide" Rule (Maybe also called "No CSR"). The live version was a list of zones that guides could not enter due to the possibility that they may unintentionally interfere with the players.

This is not the same. Our "No CSR" Rule was not put in place to mimick live's, it is a separate rule in place for separate reasons. Therefor, your comparison to any relative eqlive policy is invalid.

Disclaimer: This post was made to correct the misconception that the rule was based on an eqlive policy, which is not. I am not posting to say that we would or wouldn't consider removing our "No CSR" policy, which may or may not be up for reconsideration.