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View Poll Results: What kind of raid rules do you want?
I want FREE FOR ALL OPEN WAR RAIDS WITH NO GM INTERVENTION HELL YEA!!!!!! 70 40.94%
I want ROTATION DRAMA FREE AND A SEMBLENCE OF PEACE ON THE SERVER 77 45.03%
I want a GANG OF RULES THAT TAKES A LEGAL PRO TO INTERPRET AND 10 GMS TO ENFORCE 10 5.85%
I want NOTHING, THINGS ARE COOL AS THEY ARE DUDE. PLEASE JUST STOP ALREADY. 14 8.19%
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Old 07-28-2010, 07:47 AM
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People are racing to mobs as well under the current raid rules

They are just doing in advance to stake their claims

You people can twist, scheme, and try to fluster over raid rules for years like a rubix cube. None of the solutions can change the single greatest flaw in classic EQ

5 raid mobs a week. 900 people on the server
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:26 AM
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This poll is missing an option I vote for
Who fucking cares!
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:28 AM
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Who fucking cares!
I want NOTHING, THINGS ARE COOL AS THEY ARE DUDE. PLEASE JUST STOP ALREADY.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:38 AM
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125 atm think the current system is not working (for later reference)
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:46 AM
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Only problem with the current system is that some players will never get a chance to attain raid loot.

If you don't app to IB and suck dick for months to get considered for loot (seriously, how pitiful are apps to that guild lolz) or app DA and work your ass off to acquire dkp for months, you can only dream of an CoF or RBB etc.
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:49 AM
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Me and my brother vote Rotation, if only for selfish reasons because we want raid loot too motherfuckers [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-28-2010, 09:45 AM
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FFA solves one problem, but opens the door for loads more.

It's like breaking an arm to take your mind off a sprained finger.

Rants and flames forum will explode. Training camps even out of raids will skyrocket. 50's would run around training alts tagged to the guild they hate most. This would just invite mass chaos, and while I'll admit that sounds kinda fun for a bit...

I thought we all had enough headaches?
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:42 PM
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FFA solves one problem, but opens the door for loads more.

It's like breaking an arm to take your mind off a sprained finger.

Rants and flames forum will explode. Training camps even out of raids will skyrocket. 50's would run around training alts tagged to the guild they hate most. This would just invite mass chaos, and while I'll admit that sounds kinda fun for a bit...

I thought we all had enough headaches?
If everyone had enough headaches, why the hell did they come back to an emulator of classic-state EQ? Maybe I got lost somewhere along the way, but when I read that P99's mission was to allow players to "Relive the classic Everquest MMORPG Gaming Experience as it was in 1999 and onward", I thought that sounded awesome. The "headaches" were the best part of the game. If people wanted an easy and fair video game, then why the hell did they start up on a classic-era EverQuest emulator? WoW is easy and fair. Right now, EverQuest Live is easy and fair, too. So is basically every other MMORPG these days. The reason EverQuest used to be such an amazing game is because it wasn't fair, and it wasn't easy. Like life. You could sit at a raid mob for 3 months with 30 people if you wanted, but at the end of the day, if Elite_Guild_B could get 15 people there and ready to engage before you, you're shit out of luck. No whining to GMs was going to make a difference. And nobody was gonna wipe your eyes by suggesting a rotation or instanced raid zones. You want a raid mob? Get good enough and mobile enough to get there first and kill fast. IMO, that beats the hell out of the current Million Man March everyone is trying to assemble so they can AFK camp more effectively.

It sounds like there are too many people on here that simply couldn't handle the end-game on Live, and decided P99 is where they should come back and try to relive the glories they couldn't achieve. Just use the EZ server for that shit, IMO. This 'everyone should get a chance' nonsense is so out of the spirit of Classic EQ that I can't even believe a 1999 emulator is having this discussion. I don't care if IB kills every raid mob for the next 3 months, so long as they do it with skill, rather than their ability to AFK in an aggro-free nook and/or cranny of Fear/Hate.

People act like this is all one big excuse for "stealing another guild's mob", but what they seem to be missing is that there's no such thing as "another guild's mob". There wasn't in Live, there shouldn't be now. Why is having 15 AFK in a zone respected as a "camp" of a mob that isn't even spawned yet? That mob is yours when you start fighting it, and it ceases to be yours the second it ceases to be engaged. Those are the only rights any guild should have to a raid-content mob.
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Old 07-28-2010, 01:56 PM
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FFA solves one problem, but opens the door for loads more.

It's like breaking an arm to take your mind off a sprained finger.

Rants and flames forum will explode. Training camps even out of raids will skyrocket. 50's would run around training alts tagged to the guild they hate most. This would just invite mass chaos, and while I'll admit that sounds kinda fun for a bit...

I thought we all had enough headaches?
Rotation is just going to turn worse than it's now, because you'll end up waiting months for a chance at a boss if there's a shit load of guilds on list. High population guilds like IB and DA aren't going to want that. Plain and simple.

It's not like people are poopsocking raid bosses for days man. People will all go in at the moment a target spawns leaving a very small frame of time for people to even attempt to train, yet alone why would someone train their own guild if they're fighting for a boss? I mean it's possible to train, but it won't be easy, and you can already train as is.

You'll have to clear more mobs, or strategize how to take down bosses differently. It won't be a cake walk, and prizes won't just be handed out to bday kids who showed up late to the party.

If anything it'll be a bonus, because GM's/developers don't have to answer to whiny complaints, and maybe we'll see some expansions come out this century. It's like throwing 2 fighting kids in a locked room, eventually one will beat the crap out of the other, or they'll learn to get along.

You can't complain about rules in rants and flames if there's none. I'd rather hear about someone getting owned, or a cool raid fight vs. a bajillion raid rule complaint threads.

Training is laughable. Hell, I've been trained. Guess what I did after? I moved. I don't go back for seconds, thirds, etc.

I watched training go on for hours... and hours in the last couple days without 1 staff member doing shit. So, lets keep that going then? Mass chaos right? Lol. Time for a change?
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Old 07-28-2010, 08:38 AM
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Only 13 people agree with the current system (all of IB?)
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